<p>I'm wondering if anyone has any data on Princeton and Harvard graduates' destinations.</p>
<p>For example, is getting a job in the finance industry, e.g. Morgan, Goldman and Mckinsey, easier from Harvard than from Princeton, because of H's extensive alumni network?</p>
<p>Does P's more academic/research reputation put it at a disadvantage when a P graduate looks for a top job in Wall street?</p>
<p>Thanks in advance :)</p>
<p>Wall Street is absolutely packed with Princeton people. I wouldn't say there's a substantive difference at all.</p>
<p>"Wall Street is absolutely packed with Princeton people. I wouldn't say there's a substantive difference at all."</p>
<p>^^^^^
Is this from personal knowledge?? How do you know ?</p>
<p>I'd say there is no distinctive advantage of going to Harvard instead of Princeton in terms of job placement in big Wall Street financial firms and investment banks.</p>
<p>I dunno if they keep a lid on this info, but I'm sure that the career offices at both schools have very detailed information on where their graduates head after college. Which company took the most number of students, percentage that went straight to grad school, which grad schools etc... they def. have that info. If you can get your hands on it, I don't know.</p>
<p>i think columbia is right, because of the 3 members of the Class 2005 whom I know, they are all now working on Wall Street.</p>
<p>My friend was one of a very select few to go from Princeton straight to HBS.</p>
<p>i would be surprised if there were any financial institution of any consequence that recruits at harvard and not princeton, or at princeton and not harvard. by the way, check, what exactly do you mean by "P's more academic/research reputation"?</p>
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<p>by the way, check, what exactly do you mean by "P's more academic/research reputation"?</p>
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<p>In general, I think Princeton is most renowned for its research work, while Harvard is most famous for its leaders in business/government.</p>
<p>Hence, I wonder if Harvard grads get more top jobs in the finance industry.</p>
<p>These might not true and just be stereotypes ...</p>
<p>check, yes, I know from personal experience. Goldman Sachs in particular seems to love Princeton.</p>
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<p>That seems a misplaced generalization...Harvard (with more grad schools and far more grad students) is more of a research university than Princeton. How could Princeton have "more of an academic/research reputation"?</p>
<p>"In general, I think Princeton is most renowned for its research work, while Harvard is most famous for its leaders in business/government."</p>
<p>Here is a list I have compiled of notable people who received their bachelors at either Harvard or Princeton and have positions in 'business/government' who are still holding their posts in said areas, still active, or very recently were active (within approx. last 10 years).</p>
<p>Leaders in Business/Government: </p>
<p>-U.S. Federal Gov/State Gov/Judiciary/Local Gov. </p>
<p><em>Harvard</em></p>
<p>Albert Gore (Fmr. Vice President), R. Blumenthal (Att. Gen of CT), Michael Chertoff (Sec. of Homeland Security), Tom Ridge (Fmr. Sec of Homeland Security and Gov-PA), John Roberts (Chief Jus. - Sup. Court), Charles Schumer (Sen.-NY), David Vitter (Sen.-LA), William Weld (Fmr Gov.-MA),</p>
<p><em>Princeton</em></p>
<p>Bob Erlich (Gov-MD), Bill Frist (Sen. D-TN), Paul Sarbanes (Sen. D-MD), Mitch Daniels (Gov-IN), D. Rumsfeld (Sec.-Defense), Samuel Alito (Jus.- Sup. Court), Josh Bolton (White House Chief of Staff), Robert Mueller (Director of FBI), Bill Bradley (Fmr. Sen.-NJ), Jim Leach (Rep-IA), Richard Riordan (Fmr. Mayor- Los Angeles) </p>
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<li>Business Leaders/Economists//Organizations/Journalism/Entertainment</li>
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<p><em>Harvard</em></p>
<p>Steve Ballmer (CEO-Microsoft), Lloyd Blankfein (CEO/Chairman-Goldman Sachs), David Graham (CEO/Chairman - Washington Post), Trip Hawkins (Electronic Arts), William Kristol (The Weekly Standard), Scott McNealy (Chair.- Sum Microsystems), Franklin Raines (Ceo/Chair- Fannie Mae), Sumner Redstone (CEO/Chair.- Viacom), James Wolfensohn (Fmr. Pres. - World Bank Group), Jeff Zucker (Pres. - NBC Universal).</p>
<p><em>Princeton</em></p>
<p>James Aubrey, Jr. (Pres. CBS & MGM), Jeff Bezos (Amazon.com), Steve Forbes (Forbes Magazine), F. Thomson Leighton (Akamai), Eric Schmidt (CEO- Google), Meg Whitman (CEO-eBay), Peter Lewis (Chair.-Progressive), Richard Bott (VChair.-Morgan Stanley). Katrina vanden Heuvel (Editor-The Nation), Anthony Romero (Exec. Director- ACLU), Jim Kelly (Managing Editor -Time), Richard Stengel (Managing Editor - Time), John Stossel (20/20).</p>
<p>(Source: Wikipedia)</p>
<p>As you can see, the balance in notable alumni in both the realms of business and government are just about equal. Since Princeton does not have a law school or a business school, it would not be fair to add graduates of Harvard's Professional Schools of those areas, of course.</p>
<p>I don't know Harvard's numbers on Wall Street, but the number of Princeton grads going to wall street each year is astronomically high. My sister's graduating year, it seemed like more then half the class went on to Wall Street. That year, UBS's highly-selective consulting/ib summer internship for rising seniors which usually accepts about 3/4, 2 were from princeton.</p>
<p>Goldman, UBS, Morgan Stanley, DB, Bear Stearns, SmithBarney, PiperJaffrey among many others are from what I have seen, in love with Princeton grads as many are hired each year.</p>
<p>And I don't think there are published/compiled numbers of how many students are at each company, but my friend from Wharton went to work at Goldman after graduation and was surprised that Princeton dominated the new hires.</p>
<p>I thought it was common knowledge that Princeton owned Wall street.</p>
<p>Anyone ever read that book about the Princeton grad who raided the Japanese financial market for millions in the mid-1990s? I think I was called "ugly american$" (get it? they used a $ sign for the s lololololomg)</p>
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That seems a misplaced generalization...Harvard (with more grad schools and far more grad students) is more of a research university than Princeton. How could Princeton have "more of an academic/research reputation"?
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Because undergraduate research at Princeton is better than Harvard (source: US News and World Report). Both are huge research centers, but chances are better that a Princeton grad will have done research than a Harvard grad.</p>