Princeton has become unselective

<p>^sorry if its a dumb question but what exactly do you mean by ‘applied strategically’?</p>

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They applied because it’s on their list, they think they had a decent chance of acceptance, and wanted one acceptance in the bag—not because it was their first choice. For example, I know one girl considering both Brown and Princeton, but applied to Princeton early because it wasn’t binding, even though she actually prefers Brown.</p>

<p>Also, the admissions office itself says “The accepted early action applicants represent between 31 and 36 percent of the total number of students we expect to admit this year.” So, definitely not the >50% that you expect. (Source: <a href=“http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S32/39/75S56/index.xml?section=topstories[/url]”>http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S32/39/75S56/index.xml?section=topstories&lt;/a&gt;)</p>

<p>Not true at all. I got admitted as well #1- Princeton had a lot less applications than any of those schools, so 21% is representative of the number of students accepted at other schools</p>

<h1>2- usually there are many quality students who acceptable students who apply to the school, but their interest in the school may not really be there. In the early, more kids are genuinely interested in going so the acceptable students are able to get in</h1>

<h1>3- I am going to guess that a lot of people in regular are not going to get in. They lost a chance to show true interest in the early</h1>

<p>kameron and reggie–I think you have your numbers wrong. Princeton has said that the early action pool is approximately 1/3 of the students it expects to admit. That would mean a total admitted pool of approximately 2175 students (so approximately 1450 students would be admitted RD). Previous history would suggest that approximately 57% of the RD students will accept Princeton’s offer, or about 826. Since the class size is approximately 1300 students, that means that Princeton is conservatively estimating that 474 students, or approximately 65%, will accept from the EA pool.</p>

<p>I think that the number who accept from the EA pool will probably be slightly higher, say 70%, and it is possible that the RD yield rate will rise slightly.</p>

<p>I got deferred as a Valedictorian with a 2340, 10 passed AP exams, and an international level position. ):</p>

<p>I feel horrible that it was supposedly easier to get in this year…</p>

<p>This might be the stupidest thing I have ever read on this discussion board, and there have been many stupid things here fluttering amid a small smattering of actually useful posts. </p>

<p>Maybe you should call them up and explain that you will not be attending because it is not to your impeccable standards. I’m sure Albert Einstein, Richard Feynman, Jeffrey Eugenides, Jonathan Safran Foer, Michelle Obama, Brooke Shields, and Woodrow Wilson are in complete and utter agreement with you. Enjoy ■■■■■ U '16 - under a bridge, like where this post was probably composed.</p>

<p>Please do not let yourselves be bothered by somebody more jaded than all of China.</p>

<p>If they admitted a person like you then maybe they do need to re-evaluate their selectivity. Since you are such a genius, why don’t you go build your own university and let it compete with Princeton.</p>

<p>I hope you don’t go to princeton. Numbers change yearly, and percentages of admits and denies have nothing to do with prestige or academic quality of schools. You should like the school you go to for what it is, not what other people rank it or what the “numbers” say</p>

<p>LanaYo did not even take his or her time to read all of the 2016 results postings for HYP before posting. I did read and found Princeton’s accepted class of 2016 so far as higher academic stats and appears to be more uniform. Harvard appeared accepting more legacies and a few more URMs so far. Yale’s data indicated a lower academic stats.</p>

<p>I think Princeton admission office is doing a better job forming the class of 2016 so far.</p>

<p>Please do not jump into conclusion w/o facts to back you up.</p>

<p>Go tiger!!!</p>

<p>all right OP, thanks for slapping me in the face and being obnoxious. i got deferred with a 2370 and a lot of extracurriculars/passions and a 4.0 gpa…</p>

<p>@kameronsmith,</p>

<p>You are correct. I was rushing through the computations that I posted in #19 above and neglected the fact that this was an EA process, not ED. Sorry about that.</p>

<p>If Princeton stated that the EA admits will constitute 31-36% of the total admits, let’s assume the EA admits represent 34% of the total acceptances. That means the total admits for the year will be around 2,135 (726 divided by .34).</p>

<p>Using my other assumptions re the number of applications, there will be 1,409 acceptances coming out of the RD pool of 23,000 (which includes the EA deferred group). That’s an acceptance rate of 6.1% for the RD pool.</p>

<p>2,135 acceptances out of total applications of 24,400 results in an overall acceptance rate of 8.75%.</p>

<p>I suspect my assumption as to the total number of applications may be a bit on the low side. In other words, the acceptance rate will most likely be lower than 8.75%.</p>

<p>I hope LanaYo will find that rate acceptable.</p>

<p>Princeton is the most selective college in America.
[News</a> & Notes: Princeton named most selective college in Eastern U.S. - The Daily Princetonian](<a href=“http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/2011/12/15/29684/]News”>http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/2011/12/15/29684/)
"Princeton is the most selective college in the Eastern United States, according to The Business Journals’ On Numbers blog.
Harvard University came in second, followed by Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Yale and Columbia.</p>

<p>In the analysis, On Numbers considered the percentage of applicants admitted and the 75th and 25th percentile scores on college entrance exams such as the ACT and SAT. The formula compared each Eastern college against the national averages in these categories, using 2010 data from the National Center for Education Statistics for 344 colleges in the 12 Eastern states as well as the District of Columbia. On Numbers awarded positive scores to above-average performances and negative scores to below-average ones. They limited the study to colleges that processed at least 1,000 applications in 2010 and excluded schools that did not report admissions rates or college-entrance scores for 2010.</p>

<p>Princeton’s 2010 admissions rate of 8.8 percent makes the University one of seven Eastern colleges with an admissions rate of less than 10 percent, and its 75th percentile score of 1580 on the SAT is the highest in the region."</p>

<p>When looking at selectivity, look at the quality of applicants. Princeton has the best quality.</p>

<p>Why is everyone feeding this ■■■■■? Ignore this post ffs. This guy is obviously an arrogant dick who has an ego problem. </p>

<p>Also…to everyone who’s been deferred and complaining, you seem to have either forgotten or is very misconceived about the college admission process. There is NO arbitrary scales in getting in. It’s not an all-inclusive school where if you get certain grades and activities you are legally guaranteed admission. </p>

<p>Princeton choose who they want, based on ALOT of other things. and before you call yourself having “great” activities or grades, give yourself a reality check and get off your high horse. Just because you made higher ACT or SAT scores does not mean you’re better.</p>

<p>To all the people calling me names and a ■■■■■, please stop this. I am being honest with a feeling that I am sure all of you who are applying to colleges have. What is wrong with being honest and blunt? Part of the reason, for example, we apply to Princeton and not Berkeley in early action, even though both are great and even equivalent schools in terms of credential, is the selectivity differential. I did not say that I was not happy to be admitted, but I am honest in saying that I feel less satisfied as a result of this year’s numbers. I’m sure Princeton is still selective, but just not as selective compared to other good schools this year. Every school in HYPCSM has a lower early admit rate than Princeton. The fact that 3 out of 5 of my friends who applied got admitted also have a less than expected excitement is testament to that. I am sure that many of you can empathize, especially if my parents and peers also feel this way. Stop calling me names when you probably share the same sentiment and are just afraid to admit to it. If I am truly an arrogant dick, I would not share my disappointment. I would instead pretend to be happy and conceited. But obviously I did not. Sry for being honest…</p>

<p>LanaYo, there is a movement by alumni to have your Princeton University acceptance rescinded</p>

<p>good luck</p>

<p>OP - What type of school do you go to?</p>

<p>Let me just say if you feel so unworthy, you stole seats from some of the kids I feel deserved being admitted but were deferred. There is a local school with a bunch of NMSFs of whom none was admitted. Since Princeton has gone to EA after 4 years, they may have forgotten the process to differentiate those who appreciate a chance to attend vs those who feel it is a worth attending only if all their classmates are rejected so they can feel superior.</p>

<p>LanaYo, if you don’t want to come to Princeton because you don’t think it is selective enough, then by all means please don’t come. People come to Princeton for the amazing professors, resources, and peers, not to feel superior.</p>

<p>Also, you seem like a terrible friend. I would be ecstatic if 3 of my friends from high school had gotten accepted along with me. You, on the other hand, seem to be wishing for their failure.</p>

<p>Picture this scenario: Lots of potential “mediocre” Harvard applicants (i.e. those who really don’t stand out in the applicant pool and, from a test score/GPA perspective, have a 1-2% chance of getting in) realize they have a super-slim chance of getting in and so they don’t bother applying. And by lots, I mean ten thousand or so. Meanwhile Yale sends its admissions officers out across the country to convince every Tom, Dick, and Harry with a 1700+ SAT score to apply to Yale because it’s a low-risk, high-reward scenario, and they succeed in attracting a total of 50,000 applicants. April 1st rolls around and the number come out. Harvard, Yale, and Princeton have respective admission rates near 14%, 3.6%, and 8%. The difference in quality of students admitted at each school was probably as negligible as it normally is, so it makes no sense to be relatively disappointed at admission into Harvard or especially excited to have been admitted to Yale - the strength at the top of the applicant pool was the same at all three places.</p>

<p>In short, you’re looking at the wrong numbers. Rather than being concerned with the number of people accepted out the number of applicants, you should be looking at the quality of students admitted. That, I assure you, hasn’t dropped at all, because Dean Rapelye would have been fired by now if it had. Don’t worry about the number of people who won’t be at Princeton. Worry about finding the best place for you to spend your next four years. </p>

<p>And if your parents are legitimately less excited about your acceptance because too few people were deferred and denied or not enough people applied, well that really sucks. Your parents ought to be thrilled that you earned a spot at one of the greatest places to live and learn in the world; it’s a wonderful accomplishment that should not be belittled simply because too few people were rejected from or not enough people applied to Princeton. There are thousands of really awesome people here (and then there’s me), and you have the chance to join us and do lots of other really cool stuff too. Be proud of yourself! Celebrate! And if you can’t find it in yourself to do so because of the acceptance rate, then hopefully you can get excited about another place and will find yourself happier there.</p>

<p>I don’t even know why this is an issue. Princeton and the other top schools are still top schools.</p>