<p>As if yale needs to employ people to promote itself on CC. No college needs it but its handy if you want for info about yale. He can tell you everything from housing assignments to what seminars are the best. However if all they do is make **** up in the hope of increasing Yale's yield by 0.0001% points then thats messed up. Ever wonder what drives posterx into being such a Princeton hater and loser? </p>
<p>Ivy comraderie? Mate- i haven't even started college yet...</p>
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HAHAHA! Oh my. Point well made and taken.</p>
<p>I don't think Yale is anything like an underdog, btw. As you know, I may lean Princeton, but I cannot really disagree with anyone who claims Yale is preferrable to any other school when it comes to serving undergraduates.</p>
<p>"servicing undergrads"</p>
<p>lol</p>
<p>Kjoodles - calm down, no need to get worked up. No one really believes that one school is better than the other - just different.</p>
<p>Hey, its no big deal, kjoodles. If Yale goes number 1 in USNews or if Princeton is number 10 in ANY ranking, it is just no big deal at all. If Princeton is anywhere near the other schools, it is near them almost solely on its undergrad program. And this means that pound for pound, its program is kicking some serious butt in terms of how much focus it is putting directly on its undergraduate students. So while the rankings are useful, I just dont put so much stock in them that a change of a few position points is gonna cause me to reject the school That is just weird, in my opinion.</p>
<p>Secondly, these studies just arent that important because the thing most of them measure is marketing power or brand recognition. Others measure totally worthless stuff like the number of books or memberships a school has. That stuff dont teach nobody. I mean, what is the real difference between 9 million books and 14 million? Nothing. This stuff doesnt measure what is taking place day-after-day in the students lives. And it doesnt measure what those students think about it. Yet, when it comes to choosing a college, this is what really matters as far as I am concerned. That is why I think highly of both Yale and Princeton. From what I have seen, both schools really turn up the quality where it counts--in the classroom.</p>
<p>"servicing undergrads"</p>
<p>oops. Got locked in to this terminology. I meant SERVING undergrads. (<strong>ahem</strong> cough, cough)</p>
<p>So true, Drosselmeier. I knew we were going off the deep end with those car-accident posts. ;) </p>
<p>Any educated person who sits down with the Princeton course catalog and reads through the faculty list will want to be an undergrad on campus immediately. The opportunities are amazing and the only problem is that there are WAY TOO MANY great courses and extracurriculars and performances and lectures for one student to take advantage of in four years. </p>
<p>Both are great schools, but it is telling when a person feels the need to put one down in order to boost the other. The revealed preference study is not worth citing here, as half of the Princeton campus has already revealed a preference by applying ED. </p>
<p>If you are looking for a world-class faculty; gorgeous campus; proximity to NYC, Philly and DC; tons of money for internships, research, community service and study abroad; an amazing assortment of extracurriculars in the arts, public policy, sports (on all levels), business, journalism and more; freshman seminars with big-name professors; opportunities to work in small groups with internationally famous artists and writers; opportunities to do your own original research or project in close communication with topnotch faculty; opportunities to connect with students and faculty who represent different backgrounds and political views; a flexible residential college system offering lots of academic support as well as social and intellectual enrichment; a fun, safe environment that is not a big city but which, unlike a suburb or small town, has people on the sidewalks getting homemade ice cream, good coffee, Indian or Thai food, or books from Micawbers (the model for the independent bookstore in You've Got Mail); a great alumni network; a long tradition of fun social activities; and a happy student body, then you will find what you seek at Princeton. </p>
<p>I hope that covers it! lol</p>
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If you are looking for a world-class faculty; gorgeous campus; proximity to NYC, Philly and DC; tons of money for internships, research, community service and study abroad; an amazing assortment of extracurriculars in the arts, public policy, sports (on all levels), business, journalism and more; freshman seminars with big-name professors; opportunities to work in small groups with internationally famous artists and writers; opportunities to do your own original research or project in close communication with topnotch faculty; opportunities to connect with students and faculty who represent different backgrounds and political views; a flexible residential college system offering lots of academic support as well as social and intellectual enrichment; a fun, safe environment that is not a big city but which, unlike a suburb or small town, has people on the sidewalks getting homemade ice cream, good coffee, Indian or Thai food, or books from Micawbers (the model for the independent bookstore in You've Got Mail); a great alumni network; a long tradition of fun social activities; and a happy student body, then you will find what you seek at Princeton.
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<p>LOL, that isn't making it easier for the OP. Every description you gave also applies to Yale. :) (Well, maybe not so much the "You've Got Mail" thing.)</p>
<p>Exactly my thoughts, Ginny - you could just write Yale instead of princeton and everything would apply. </p>
<p>Just to debunk a statment made earlier (way earlier) in this thread, Yale also has a freshman seminar program with about 30 seminars to choose from. Here are the links</p>
<p>you can also follow the links on the left to learn more about special freshman programs in chemistry, math, and english, along with the freshman seminar program, directed studies and perspectives on science. </p>
<p>Here is a link to the Residential College Seminar Program which might interest you as well
<a href="http://www.yale.edu/collegeseminar/%5B/url%5D">http://www.yale.edu/collegeseminar/</a>
<a href="http://www.yale.edu/yalecollege/students/academics/seminars/college.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.yale.edu/yalecollege/students/academics/seminars/college.html</a></p>
<p>Actually, Princeton's residential college system is more flexible than Yale's, and Princeton has a safer and more bucolic campus. </p>
<p>However, I believe the schools are way more similar than they are different, and I certainly didn't write that list in order to put down Yale. I am merely responding to certain rather fantastical putdowns of Princeton in this thread. </p>
<p>I believe the only way a student can choose between them is to visit and find out where she or he feels comfortable and energized, and also to investigate his/her areas of interest very carefully. Here's a Daily Prince article on how deciding on the basis of stereotypes can be a big mistake: <a href="http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/archives/2006/03/30/arts/14992.shtml%5B/url%5D">http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/archives/2006/03/30/arts/14992.shtml</a></p>
<p>I don't hate Princeton, in fact, along with Harvard, Yale, MIT and Caltech, I consider it to have the finest undergraduate program in the country. </p>
<p>Also, I am not a cyber troll, I am simply correcting stereotypes on this pro-Princeton board which have absolutely no grounding in reality.</p>
<p>Thank you zach447, it all sounds tempting, but it came too late to count towards my decision between Princeton and Yale. That I chose Princeton nevertheless is another story...</p>