Princeton Ranks High in USNWR Graduate School Rankings (news item)

<p>Best</a> Graduate Schools - Education - US News and World Report</p>

<p>U.S. News has just released its rankings of graduate school programs at universities across the country. About half of the disciplines have new rankings this year while the other half are from last year or the year before.</p>

<p>Many posters here on CC think of Princeton primarily as an undergraduate institution. They see the absence of professional schools of law, medicine and business as indicating a weaker graduate program. Princeton's focus is not on professional schools (with the exception of the Woodrow Wilson School and the School of Architecture) but its graduate programs leading to PhDs in the humanities and sciences are among the best in the country.</p>

<p>U.S. News offers its analysis of the strength of many of the core PhD programs in the humanities and sciences, including Biological Sciences, Chemistry, Computer Science, Earth Sciences, Economics, English, History, Mathematics, Physics, Political Science, Psychology and Sociology. </p>

<p>Among these core disciplines, only the following schools have programs that rank among the top fifty institutions for all twelve. Their average scores for these twelve basic programs in the sciences and humanities are as follows (on a scale of 1.0 to 5.0) :</p>

<p>Average
Score Institution</p>

<p>4.8------------Berkeley and Stanford</p>

<p>4.6------------Harvard and Princeton</p>

<p>4.4------------U. of Mich and Yale</p>

<p>4.3------------Columbia and U. of Chicago</p>

<p>4.2------------Cornell, UCLA and U. of Wisconsin-Madison</p>

<p>4.0------------UT Austin</p>

<p>3.9------------Duke, Northwestern and UC San Diego</p>

<p>3.8------------U. of Minn. and U. of Washington</p>

<p>3.7------------Penn State</p>

<p>3.6------------Ohio State, Indiana U., UC Davis and U. of Maryland</p>

<p>No other schools ranked within the top 50 programs in all twelve basic disciplines.</p>

<p>Stanford and Berkeley are the stars of the show here. Both have very large graduate programs in the humanities and sciences and both are outstanding. Even so, Princeton comes in just behind the leaders while doing so with substantially smaller departments.</p>

<p>Another comparison is of the number of ranked programs within the top ten nationally, the top five nationally or the number one ranking in the nation. That comparison looks like this:</p>

<p>Number of Programs
in the Top
Ten Nationally
Out of 12 Ranked
Programs</p>

<p>12----------Berkeley and Stanford
11----------Harvard
9-----------Princeton
7-----------Yale
6-----------Columbia, U. of Chicago and U. of Michigan
4-----------Cornell and UCLA
3-----------Northwestern and U. of Wisconsin
2-----------Duke, U. of Minnesota and UT Austin
1-----------Penn State, UC San Diego and U. of Washington</p>

<p>Number of Programs
in the Top
Five Nationally
Out of 12 Ranked
Programs</p>

<p>12----------Stanford
10----------Harvard and UC Berkeley
6-----------Princeton
4-----------U. of Michigan and Yale
3-----------U. of Chicago
2-----------Columbia
1-----------UCLA and U. of Wisconsin</p>

<p>Number of
Programs Ranked
Number 1 in the Nation
(out of 12)</p>

<p>7-----------Stanford
6-----------UC Berkeley
4-----------Princeton
2-----------Harvard
1-----------U. of Chicago and Yale</p>

<p>Princeton's graduate school strengths are in both the sciences and the humanities. U.S. News has ranked it the best in the nation in the following disciplines:</p>

<p>Economics (tied with Harvard, MIT and U. of Chicago)
History (tied with Berkeley, Stanford and Yale)
Mathematics
Political Science (tied with Harvard and Stanford)</p>

<p>It is also ranked third in the nation in physics and sociology. </p>

<p>Physics (tied with Berkeley, CalTech and Harvard)
Sociology (tied with U. of Michigan)</p>

<p>A number of programs have been left out here because they are specialized and not all the highly ranked schools have them. These include engineering, public affairs, nursing/specialized health fields and fine arts. Princeton is highly ranked in the first two though they have not been included.</p>

<p>While the strength of graduate programs in the humanities and sciences is not directly related to the quality of undergraduate education, it does indicate something about the quality of the faculty in these basic disciplines. </p>

<p>While Princeton is justifiably proud of the quality of its undergraduate program, it is equally strong in graduate education, something that is often overlooked on these boards.</p>

<p>For what USNWR is worth… interesting info. Thanks for sharing.</p>

<p>Heh, nice analysis! Thanks, PtonGrad.</p>

<p>Thanks for the different approach.</p>

<p>Where did you get those rankings…</p>

<p>[World’s</a> Best Colleges and Universities: Top 200 - US News and World Report](<a href=“http://www.usnews.com/articles/education/worlds-best-colleges/2008/11/20/worlds-best-colleges-and-universities-top-200.html]World’s”>http://www.usnews.com/articles/education/worlds-best-colleges/2008/11/20/worlds-best-colleges-and-universities-top-200.html)</p>

<p>Aston, I see you Penn guys are on the move again! </p>

<p>The just released U.S. News graduate school rankings are the most current evaluations available for the assessment of PhD level programs in the humanities and sciences. (They also assess professional schools which, as you know, Princeton doesn’t offer.) I would place more faith in the assessments made by the National Research Council which, though much delayed, are due to be published soon. </p>

<p>The last time the National Research Council made its own assessments ten years ago, Princeton’s programs ranked about where they are in this U.S. News evaluation except that Princeton has improved dramatically in the life sciences since that time. In that earlier study, Princeton ranked second only to Berkeley nationally in the Arts & Humanities:</p>

<p>Top Five NRC Graduate Programs in the Arts & Humanities</p>

<p>1–Berkeley
2–Princeton
3–Harvard
4–Columbia
5–Cornell</p>

<p>…was fifth in Engineering:</p>

<p>Top Five NRC Graduate Programs in Engineering</p>

<p>1–MIT
2–Berkeley
3–Stanford
4–Cal Tech
5–Princeton</p>

<p>…and was fourth in the Physical Sciences and Math:</p>

<p>Top Five NRC Graduate Programs in the Physical Sciences and Math</p>

<p>1–Berkeley
2–MIT
3–Cal Tech
4–Princeton
5–Harvard</p>

<p>In the Social & Behavioral Sciences Princeton came in 8th. These evaluations are now ten years old so there has been some movement. </p>

<p>The World Ranking that you are linking to was built off the QS World Ranking much discussed in the following two threads. In fact, you Penn guys were so excited about it that you started three separate threads in the Princeton forum on the same topic. The bottom line on the QS World Ranking is that the entire explanation for Princeton’s lower showing was due to inconsistent reporting by various institutions of their faculty numbers, driving down the student:faculty ratios at Princeton’s peers nearly all of which reported far more faculty members than they report on their own websites. I suspect that they believed they were supposed to report all employees whereas Princeton reported only faculty numbers. You can read about it here:</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/princeton-university/577742-princeton-plummets-2008-qs-world-uni-rankings.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/princeton-university/577742-princeton-plummets-2008-qs-world-uni-rankings.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/princeton-university/580493-princeton-12-best-school-qs-rank.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/princeton-university/580493-princeton-12-best-school-qs-rank.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>U.S. News even discussed this problem in reporting on its own website and there is some belief that the data will be gathered and assessed differently this year. </p>

<p>No need to be defensive about Penn which is certainly one of the finest institutions of higher education in the world.</p>

<p>Hi!</p>

<p>Wanted to know more about how the woodrow wilson school stands in the field of development economics/development studies… any inputs? thinking of the MPA programme.</p>

<p>Thanks!!</p>

<p>^ [Development</a> Economics - Economics - Graduate Schools - Education - US News and World Report](<a href=“http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-economics-schools/development-economics]Development”>http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-economics-schools/development-economics)</p>