Princeton = shoe in I-Banking?

<p>I know princeton is a target school, but how much easier is it to get into IB from Princeton than from say Berkeley Haas or an LAC like washington and lee?</p>

<p>Obviously it is much easier, but by no means is it a shoo-in. BB IB is not a shoo-in even at a place like Wharton.</p>

<p>^Agreed. Princeton >= Wharton, though.</p>

<p>Princeton = Haas</p>

<p>the proportion of people at both schools getting into banks, IB in particular, favors Haas.</p>

<p>Princeton is a much more highly targeted school than Haas. The proportion going into banking may be the same, but keep in mind that Princeton is liberal arts focused without a business school. If you want to go into banking, it is much easier from Princeton. It is a top target, on par with Harvard and Wharton.</p>

<p>“Agreed. Princeton >= Wharton, though.”</p>

<p>Umm I dont agree. Harvard is on par with Wharton. However, Princeton is a step down on the wrungs of Ibanking. (Though, its not a huge step)</p>

<p>All three are virtually equivalent for banking. Wharton is arguably in a tier of its own - there are some PE firms like Silver Lake that only recruit from Wharton, but for banking, all three are top targets.</p>

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<p>I disagree. Even if you’d check out the job placements at both schools, you’d see that there are more Haas grads getting into top IBs than there are Princeton grads, that despite Princeton has a bigger student population than Haas has. </p>

<p>Somebody mentioned Silver Lake. Silver Lake didn’t take in someone from Princeton but took in several grads from Haas. In terms of IB placement, I guess you can’t disregard the excellent placement of some top business schools because those schools’ orientation is geared towards such career. If you want to get into IB, go to a top business school such as Wharton, Sloan, Haas, Stern and Ross. Their grads are just as heavily recruited as HYPSM grads are.</p>

<p>RML, you are in high school and are going to Berkeley, so you have an obvious bias. As someone who has gone through IBD recruiting, I can tell you for sure that it is far easier to get into a top IB from Princeton. And I have no affiliation with either Princeton or Haas, so my views are completely objective.</p>

<p>First of all, if you go to Berkeley, there’s no guarantee that you’ll even get into Haas. You have to apply for that as a sophomore and plenty of people do not get admitted to the program.</p>

<p>Second, even though Haas is a smaller population than Princeton as a whole, I am positive that more Berkeley students apply to banking than Princeton students do. You’d be surprised at how many students at P, even the Econ and ORFE majors, go into non-finance careers. And as a whole, more Princeton students are given offers by BB banks than just about any other school.</p>

<p>Third, Haas is only recruited for west coast offices. Look at their IBD placement - almost everyone is working in SF or LA. Tough luck if you want to be in NY - it’s possible, but extremely difficult. Princeton students have the flexibility to work anywhere in the US.</p>

<p>Look, I’m not saying that Haas is not a target or is badly recruited - it’s a solid target for the west coast. But it doesn’t compare to Princeton, especially at a national level, and you’re deluding yourself if you think otherwise.</p>

<p>And about Silver Lake, trust me, it only recruits from Wharton for analysts. They also hire associates AFTER they have completed 2 years in banking or an MBA, which is probably what you were looking at, but for ANALYSTS DIRECTLY OUT OF UNDERGRAD, it only goes to Wharton. Even HYPSM grads are ignored.</p>

<p>Just realized that you’re not in high school and not a Berkeley student, so disregard my first sentence.</p>

<p>I do not believe that Stern and Ross are as heavily recruited as HYPSM. Or at least job offers are definitely not extended to as many at Ross/Stern than at HYPSM.</p>

<p>giants92, I used to believe that way too. I thought Ross isn’t well recruited by top banks. But 4 of the 6 major banks make Ross as a “core school” for their recruitments. McKinsey & Co, for example, which has a notorious hiring processes, but heavily recruits at Ross and made Ross along with HYPSM+Wharton as a “core school” for their recruitments. Again, the main thrust and curricula of these top business schools are geared towards banking and finance, so to disregard them as top producers of IBiers would be a mistake.</p>

<p>ForeverZero, show me proofs/links that would show that Princeton is suprior to Haas for job placement.</p>

<p>RML, I do not have raw employment data that shows either school as “superior” for job placement. If you or anyone has that data, I’d love to see it because it would show once and for all the extent to which the schools are recruited.</p>

<p>I was going by my own experiences while recruiting as well as by what both junior and senior bankers at bulge brackets have told me. Coming from an HYPSM school, I was repeatedly told by bankers and recruiters that, along with Wharton, HYPSM were the most targeted core schools by the BB’s. In my final round interviews, most candidates were from these schools. I saw practically no Haas students outside of west coast offices. Two of my friends at Berkeley, while going through full-time recruiting last fall, told me straight to my face that they wished they were at HYPSM because they would have had an easier time and been better recruited. No one I know at HYPSM says they would rather be at Berkeley.</p>

<p>Yes, this is just my experience, and maybe is a bit skewed, but the popular opinion on the Street seems to be that HYPSM + Wharton is noticeably better recruited than any other school. If you have raw data that shows otherwise, I’d love to see it, because that would prove many bankers and recruiters wrong.</p>

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<p>My experience also. My Berkeley friends have done very well for themselves, but I feel that in terms of percentages who make it and effort expended, HYPSM (and esp. W) have an edge.</p>