<p>^So as not to paint an overly rosy picture of a night out on “the street”, I do believe that many students “pregame” the night with hard liquor in their dorms, as I think someone mentioned. Princeton students definitely have a work hard, play hard mentality which can be dangerous.</p>
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<p>I can differentiate prepositions, xiggi. The generalizations are nevertheless inappropriate.</p>
<p>Epiphany, I do not follow your argument here.</p>
<p>Hanna was very clear she was speaking about her Harvard experience, so what’s the problem?</p>
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<p>Huh, and here I thought eating clubs were all just about feeding the students!</p>
<p>"Huh, and here I thought eating clubs were all just about feeding the students! "</p>
<p>It might be useful to read the posts by the Princeton students actually posting here</p>
<p>“It may be problematic once a year, during bicker week/pickups, but that’s it.”</p>
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<p>Harvard does not allow sororities to meet anywhere on its campus, so if you saw 80 sorority women who attend Harvard, it would not have been at Harvard. Which leads me to ask, where exactly, did you see these Harvard sorority women together in a room if you were not one of them?</p>
<p>"Which leads me to ask, where exactly, did you see these Harvard sorority women together in a room if you were not one of them? "</p>
<p>“As a graduate 10+ years out, I can distinguish sorority A’s *group photos *from sorority B’s with great ease, despite not knowing any of the members. Sorority A’s members are all slender and attractive; they sparkle. Sorority B has a wide variety of body types and sex appeal/charisma levels.”</p>
<p>The sororities at Harvard meet at final clubs, apartments, or bars and restaurants around Cambridge. I suppose being at a final club is not “at Harvard,” but it’s a pretty fine distinction. There are group pictures all over Facebook and so on. </p>
<p>“The generalizations are nevertheless inappropriate.”</p>
<p>Inappropriate? But are they correct? If you’re prepared to argue that looks play no role whatsoever in sorority rush at Princeton – that given an identical personality, a homely, obese woman has the same odds of getting into the same chapters as a Brooke Shields lookalike – let’s hear it.</p>
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<p>Perhaps you should stick to areas with which you are familiar instead of leaping headlong and blind with your guns blazing into matters of which you clearly have no grasp.</p>
<p>Basically no one at Princeton lives off-campus, so the last case is irrelevant.</p>
<p>Fraternity parties are affiliated with fraternities. Pregaming is not officially affiliated with eating clubs. Shutting down the eating clubs will not eliminate pregaming. Shutting down fraternities will decrease by 100% the incidence of fraternity-based binge drinking on campus.</p>
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<p>Where did the article state that the alcohol came from the eating clubs? Furthermore, read my posts. I would cut your losses and stop posting here, but whatever you want to do is fine by me.</p>
<p>Daily Princetonian, March 29, 2011:
“In an email to Cloister’s membership, Sally advised members to consult an officer or simply take intoxicated friends back to their rooms to avoid a transport to UMCP and to spare the club police inquiries. He also requested that members alert officers if they see police or an ambulance anywhere near the club.”</p>
<p>Siliconvalleymom, is there any indication in that article that the eating clubs are responsible for providing the alcohol that results in the hospitalizations?</p>
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<p>So I asked my D, who as a freshman went to Eating Club parties occasionally, and she said that yes “definitely” the hard drinking at Princeton was done outside the clubs and that it would be very difficult to get really drunk from the beer they served. She does believe, however, that they serve their members other alcoholic beverages at certain events–formals and lawn parties, and doesn’t know about bicker/sign in week as she hasn’t been through it (and currently plans to remain independent).</p>
<p>Leaving the fraternity issue aside, what, if anything, does P do to address the heavy drinking outside the clubs (by which I assume means students in their dorm rooms?).</p>
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<p>Your daughter is correct – at certain events, the clubs are open bar. These are typically members-only or members-plus-one/two. In addition, as I mentioned earlier the clubs do make sure to be careful in general with stuff like that.</p>
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<p>Banning freshman-year rush. I don’t see why we should leave aside one issue that is totally related to what you are discussing more broadly.</p>
<p>Source: Relative at P, who has been spending a lot of time at one of the selective / bicker eating clubs and did so last year as well, as several members of his athletic team are members of this one particular club. Listening to the many, er, inebriation stories, including tales of someone falling down and getting hurt and members being assigned to escort those who are drunk home, it’s really hard for me to think that this club sounds much different from a drinking-oriented fraternity, except for the fact that it’s co-ed and no one lives there. The twitter account of this particular eating club also says “As long as love and liquor lasts, we’ll drink to [name of club].” Oh, but wait, it’s Princeton, so I guess it’s different somehow …</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.observer.com/2007/02/undercover-at-princetons-eating-clubs/[/url]”>http://www.observer.com/2007/02/undercover-at-princetons-eating-clubs/</a></p>
<p>This article is a bit dated (2007), but these are some choice quotes:</p>
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