<p>Well, the title says it all...</p>
<p>um yeah, masssssive grade inflation, but they are imposing something like only like 25-30 percent can get As.</p>
<p>its especially good for getting into even average pre-med tigers into Princeton Med</p>
<p>"average pre-med tigers into princeton med"
Princeton has medical school? i didn't think so... i heard premed at P is really really difficult....</p>
<p>90% of Princeton Premeds get into Medical school. The schools with the most # of Pton matriculants are Harvard, Yale, Columbia, Cornell, Penn, Hopkins, Mt. Sinai, Einstein, and some others.</p>
<p>then how about business schools?? is the placement just as good??</p>
<p>"um yeah, masssssive grade inflation, but they are imposing something like only like 25-30 percent can get As."</p>
<p>Do you even go to Princeton? There is little if any grade inflation here and I have the benefit of being able to speak from first hand experience.</p>
<p>Medical school? Great placement. I believe the acceptance rate into Columbia Med from Princeton was 30% or something of the sort. Look at the career services page, most of the stats are there somewhere.</p>
<p>Re business school, a lot of students get some work under their belts first. Placement in i-banking and consulting is excellent; many recruiters go to Princeton.</p>
<p>
[quote]
Do you even go to Princeton? There is little if any grade inflation here and I have the benefit of being able to speak from first hand experience.
[/quote]
</p>
<p>Well, let me put it to you this way. Which school do you think is the harder one to get higher grades at - Princeton, or MIT? Be honest with yourself.</p>
<p>Average GPA for Applicants to Med Schools from MIT: 3.62
To Law Schools: 3.28
(<a href="http://web.mit.edu/career/www/infostats/preprof.html%5B/url%5D">http://web.mit.edu/career/www/infostats/preprof.html</a>)</p>
<p>Average GPA at Princeton in 2001 (PRE-GRADE INFLATION MEASURES): 3.5
(<a href="http://www.gradeinflation.com/princeton.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.gradeinflation.com/princeton.html</a>)</p>
<p>Put aside stereotypes about grading. Before the new grade inflation proposals, Princeton was giving out A range grades to about 43%, while the supposedly brutal Cornell administration was giving out 40%. (<a href="http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/archives/2004/04/23/news/10392.shtml%5B/url%5D">http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/archives/2004/04/23/news/10392.shtml</a>) Seeing as how Princeton now caps As to 35%, it is the hardest grading school in the Ivy league without question. I haven't been able to find any information about MIT grading (proportion of As, Average GPA, etc.) but after the new grade inflation proposal at Princeton, it is presumable that the average GPA will fall by about .3 (lets say the 10% decrease in A-range occurs by forcing some As to A-s and some A-s to B+s, a decrease of about .35 in gpa) moving it to 3.2. Nevertheless, 3.2 definitely seems a bit low and from personal experience (and personal experience) I would have to say it is around a 3.25/3.3 . Looking at these stats from MIT, I would have to say Princeton does seem harder if not the same as MIT.</p>
<p>MIT is DEFINITELY the hardest place to recieve high grades. All I need to say is the average GPA at MIT: 3.1 on a 4.0 scale..... Pre-med students work their behinds off to get that avg 3.62 (believe me I have many friends who are premed there) and I'm sure at most schools that would be too low for Med School but at MIT that GPA is an accomplishment. As for caps, you won't find any as MIT does not enforce such things (just a simple bell curve determined by how the class in general does).</p>
<p>Sorry, I was misled by those stats on their website. But still, to say that Princeton still has "massive grade inflation" or ever did have it is quite incorrect. And while the 3.1 GPA is lower than what I figured from the stats I had access to, it does not really surprise me. I never really meant to argue that Princeton grading was harsher than MIT's but Sakky's comment led me to search for his statement's validity and I was left with misleading stats.<br>
However, it is still important to note that Science/Engineering majors typically have GPAs lower than their humanities counterparts. If the average GPA at Princeton is now about 3.25/3.3, then it is presumable that the average Engineering GPA is a bit less. While the average Princeton engineer may still have a higher average GPA than an MIT one, the difference is surely within .15
MIT may grade harder than Princeton but I don't quite see any school (perhaps Caltech?) as having grading that harsh along with a brilliant student body. Even if Princeton has grading that is more lax than MIT, it is still the hardest grading ivy. Coupled with a brilliant student body, the new grade inflation measures seem to ensure that getting a high GPA at Princeton is more difficult than most anywhere else (save MIT!).</p>