Dean of Yale College announced on March 8, 2021, there will be no more shopping period and students must preregister for classes starting with the Fall of 2021. Yale Daily News put out a story on March 10, 2021.
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Thanks!
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So will students just sign up for more classes and then drop the ones they do not like after a few sessions?
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You see… Yalies care! She should go to Yale. Nicest group of human beings on Earth. I still have recurring good dreams once a month about the place, often involving my going back there to teach. It’s not without reason that the saying in the high powered circles of NYC is “those darn Yalies, they always stick together!” Culture and community really matter; D got that right. And Princeton got’s nothing, except for Joyce Carol Oates (my favorite author), on Yale’s Engliah and writing programs.
Have only seen the YDN article which does not specify. Seems to suggest there will be two rounds of preregistration in April and May and add/drop in August before classes start, but unclear to me on quick reading.
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@gablesdad, Princeton also has Fintan O’Toole every spring: Princeton University Arts Events - Lewis Center for the Arts
#justsayin!
For sure Yale is famous for English, and it’s got a long tradition of attracting amazing writers. She does love Princeton’s CW program, though; the school doesn’t attract as many writers, so the attention they get is really incredible. If she chooses Yale she will be very sad to let it go.
On the few kids/resources theory Stanford is still a dark horse.
Will post when a decision is made! Thanks all!
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Not sure why Stanford is a dark horse. Difficult decision with three great schools. Maybe there is one factor that can decide, such as location.
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I don’t believe the academic differences between the two are meaningful based on what you’ve posted. I think she should make a decision on social vibe if she finds THOSE differences meaningful.
And attending Yale undergrad for the maybe/kinda/sorta/possible “tip” into Yale Law School would be irrelevant in my book. YLS does not 'bend the rules" for Yale undergrads… so if she’s what they want, any institution will get here there (or not).
I think the differences between the town of Princeton and the city of New Haven are meaningful- most of the Yale kids we’ve known are actively engaged in city politics, muckraking type journalism, volunteering in the public schools and hospitals, etc. There is not as much “need” surrounding the Princeton campus, so their volunteer activities seem quite different.
Can’t go wrong. I don’t know any kids at Princeton who look back with regret on their choice, nor do I know any at Yale.
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Yes Yale is starting to win the race between the two.
Stanford is a dark horse because she really thought it a STEM school, but is reconsidering. Trying not to diverge this thread though!
College Navigator - Stanford University indicates that about a third of BA/BS graduates in a recent class were CS or engineering majors, but the rest of the graduates are not that heavily skewed toward science and math.
Stanford had 47 English BA/BS graduates, compared to Yale’s 55 and Princeton’s 42. However, Stanford does have a somewhat larger BA/BS class every year (1,697 versus 1,392 versus 1,268 for the classes shown in College Navigator).
I would be very interested to hear from you and this group about vibe/culture difference.
These are our generalizations. I’m sure others will chime in:
Princeton: preppier, more dressed up, more pre-professional and STEM
Yale: funkier, a few don’t care, more artsy
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The residential colleges at Yale are a strong differentiator. They truly provide a non selective safety net of social support unseen in any other research university experience, except for that school just outside Boston whose name I often forget. Each residential college at Yale gets its own academic dean, resident head full professor, library, theatre or other unique entertainment facility, social hours including “teas” with professors and personalities arranged by the residential college head, castle (no kidding) with a courtyard and some with (dry) moat, beautiful vaulted dining rooms; and then you can use and attend any other college’s facilities (including the beautiful dining rooms) or events at any time; and all university facilities anywhere. Both school and residential college spirit are spectacular and stay with you for decades to come after graduation; Princeton does have the overall school spirit but not as much the additional layer of the residential college spirit and resources, which is really solely accretive and does not sacrifice anything else. Yale I think provides insuperable value and service to its undergrads (ie you get state and federal government services for the same tax payment).
Yale also has a really unexpected genuine culture of academic modesty and sociability that Princeton sometimes can lack, in part because of the different geographic settings; you can definitely sense an awareness of privilege at Yale that results in an inclusive and mindful general environment. Academia and public service are the highest moral callings and the professional schools are highly theoretical and academic, certainly at the law school. Princeton has a more precorporate feel while there, even if likely the outcomes of most graduates are indistinguishable at the undergrad level.
Feel free to PM to me any specific questions or doubts re Yale.
Yale 100%. Have a friend who majored in English at Yale and did the year abroad in Oxford. Had the time of her life.
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