<p>Nice. Now I just have to get in.</p>
<p>Meh, doesn't make that much of a difference, since they would just make up increases in finacial aid anyways. If I don't get financial and am accepted, I could afford 1 year. Then I would have to go to community college.</p>
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Even at $33,000, Princeton would still be among the most expensive universities in the country, but it also offers some of the most generous financial aid packages among elite universities. Princeton said that 55 percent of its freshmen receive financial aid, up from 38 percent for the class that entered a decade ago.
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<p>I don't see why it's such a big deal. There are so many students whose families have no trouble affording the cost. Why not charge them *more *and rebate the difference to less-affluent students via financial aid?</p>
<p>How original! The government has already implemented such a program. In fact, why not give the truly needy free tuition and an earned income credit to use for trips to NYC, Philly,etc..</p>
<p>Would be fine with me...</p>
<p>The room and board will go up by 19.3%.........</p>
<p>What next? Should some pay more for autos,groceries, or even cookies? Why limit your proposal to college costs?</p>
<p>Thats basically the idea of sociallism. It's basically forced Philanthropy, and not all that bad of an idea, IMO. There is a point where it is too much.</p>
<p>They already do that, through a pretty generous financial aid package that is need-based.</p>
<p>The overall cost including room and board is going up by 4.2%. The headlines are disingenuous to say the least. This reminds me of a car salesman who says the car is marked down by $1,000....but oh yeah it doesn't have air conditioning ($800) or a radio ($200).</p>
<p>It will be interesting to see where this goes. The Ivies and most elites have all marched upward in lockstep, more or less. For a long time, the presumption was that applicants would perceive a lower tuition number as somehow signaling lower quality.</p>
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<p>That's pretty much the way the system works already. The only catch is that some middle-class families may have an EFC that's tough to meet.</p>
<p>Socialism isn't a bad thing, unless the money is wasted, which is the case a lot of the time.</p>
<p>dang, middle class gets the shaft.</p>
<p>Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy. Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
- Winston Churchill</p>
<p>i guess socialism isn't that bad if everyone agrees to it..... and i don't think those who can pay tuition want to pay for even more of everyone else's tuition just because they are well-off.</p>
<p>i was talking about financial aid with someone the other day. she said that when she was born, her parents decided whether to save money for her college fund or to use it to go on trips to other countries. they chose the latter. now she's getting a lot of financial aid because they don't have a lot of money saved. i know this isn't the case for many people, but it just struck me as rather unfair.</p>
<p>Palmettoman, socialism may not appeal to you (it certainly doesn't appeal to me), but you can't deny its effectiveness. Look at Scandinavia- universal healthcare, higher education that costs next to nothing, etc. Bash socialism all you want, but you can do better than citing a quote that doesn't really say anything.</p>
<p>Palmettoman is a bitter bitter man whose ancestors were lost in a fight for socialism. Hence the emotional and psychological barrier he has put up against it. After all, socialism did kill his ancestors.</p>
<p>Either that, or his family are a bunch of rich aristocrats who are close to the stingiest bast*rds on the face of the earth. Why would he understand equal sharing if he's always had a shatload more than everyone else?</p>
<p>And he quotes Churchill. Thank you for quoting such an infallible source of knowledge and insight. </p>
<p>Palmettoman is only rich in the pocket. In every other respect, he is the pauper.</p>
<p>Wow,who's bitter here? Not me. I'm really a happy guy. I'm afraid more pedestrian etiologies account for the demise of my ancestors.</p>
<p>I'm a white collar guy with blue collar roots. I believe in philanthropy. I actually engage in philanthropy, but "forced philanthropy"--please. I suspect I know a little more about poverty than you, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. I don't know you the way you think you know me. </p>
<p>I am comfortable, though not truly rich monetarily. In the game of life, I am rich with friends,family,and satisfaction in my vocation.</p>
<p>I hope you can learn to take yourself a little less seriously. Be slower to judge a person.</p>
<p>I do like Churchill,as do Bill Clinton,Al Gore, Bush 43, and Chris Matthews. I guess all those guys and I fit in the same pigeon hole. </p>
<p>This thread is old. I am for helping those who need help. That's a true virtue.I just don't like the attitude of thinking one is owed something. We all should give more to our colleges,graduate schools,domestic and foreign charities. However, to confiscate money is simply wrong in my opinion.</p>
<p>I do respect your opinion.It is acceptable to vehemently disagree with another's opinion. I find it sad that you felt the need to personalize the subject though. That's one of the reasons our Congress is so dysfunctional.</p>
<p>I truly hope you have as good of a life as I have had. It's been a good run. Bitter,quite the contrary. No mas.</p>
<p>Socialism simply doesn't work. It gives very little incentive for people to go out and work to achieve. People point to the free universal health care and education systems in Western and Central Europe as a model of socialism's success. Why then, may I ask, do Europeans come to America for medical treatment and for education? </p>
<p>Don't talk about socialism's great features. My grandfather died waiting for an operation because of Ireland's socialist-style healthcare system. It is a system that does not work, as it encourages mediocrity. While Americans do get ripped off in medical treatment, at least they don't have to go on waiting lists to get into hospitals or get on waiting lists up to a year for certain surgical procedures.</p>
<p>At least I finally got to see one decent post from you. So thank you for giving us that. I certainly do not agree to socialism as a whole, but there are principles in many systems that are great. </p>
<p>Good man.</p>