<p>In terms of undergrad experience, do you agree?</p>
<p>probably hehehe</p>
<p>Yeah. I heard that Princeton's undergrad focus was amazing.</p>
<p>It's hard to make a judgment about "experience" because no one has been an undergrad at all three. With that in mind, in terms of undergraduate "emphasis", it goes Princeton, Yale, Harvard. Princeton has a much higher ratio of undergrad:grad than Yale and Harvard. As a result, resources and teachers are fully available to the undergrads.</p>
<p>Princeton > Harvard > Yale in terms of undergraduate education quality.</p>
<p>i doubt that....^</p>
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Princeton > Harvard > Yale in terms of undergraduate education quality.
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<p>Haha, find 10 people who agree with that fallacy.</p>
<p>ok, seriously, it DEFINITELY depends on the department.</p>
<p>^^not so much. It may depend somewhat on the graduate department, but people never realize that a stronger academic (read:graduate) department very often means less undergraduate attention. My noble laureate professor in Molecular Biology was the coldest, must unapproachable, and the worst "teacher" I've ever had. It definitely depends more on the school's overall commitment to undergraduate education and the friendliness of the faculty. </p>
<p>I don't know about Princeton, but at Yale, all of the faculty in the Graduate School of Arts and Sciences are required to teach undergrads, often freshman. Yale has established so many seminar programs (such as the college seminars and freshman seminars) which include hundreds of course offerings with class with fewer than 15 undergraduate students (e.g. Tony Blair's seminar on Faith and Globalization). And from my experiences, the majority of professors are extremely friendly towards undergraduates and actually WANT to work with them. 95% of science majors do research with top faculty members and 150-200 undergrads co-author published research every year. </p>
<p>Just look at the numbers. Harvard and Stanford are mostly graduate schools; the vast majority of students are graduate students, so it appears as though the "focus" is on graduate instruction and research. This is perfectly respectable, as different universities have different missions. (They are probably the two strongest "research universities" on the planet.)</p>
<p>Princeton is clearly undergrad-focused with its higher proportion of undergrads and Yale also has its "focus" on its undergrads as President Levin has repeatedly emphasized that Yale is first and foremost, committed to undergraduate education. (Yale also has a much higher proportion of undergrads than Harvard and Stanford, and the planned 15% expansion of Yale College also demonstrates the commitment towards educating undergrads.) </p>
<p>In the end, the undergraduate experience mostly depends on the school's overall commitment to undergraduate education.</p>
<p>Princeton > Yale > Harvard.</p>
<p>Correct.</p>
<p>I'd say Harvard>Princeton>Yale... for some reason, I feel like there is a greater variety/diversity of people at Harvard than at Princeton</p>
<p>As far as undergraduates
Dartmouth>Princeton>Yale>Harvard</p>
<p>"Dartmouth > Princeton"</p>
<p>Princeton has all of dartmouth's academic strengths but more. Princeton has Dartmouth's undergraduate focus but it is also a worldclass research university. This means undergraduate courses are taught by leading professionals who love teaching.</p>
<p>Wow. That's all I can say. Wow. If you think the people coming out of Princeton are greedy, bland, pompous, and financially-oriented, you only show your ignorance.</p>
<p>Over 50% of the students at Princeton are receiving some sort of financial aid. Princeton does not offer merit-based or athletic scholarships.</p>
<p>The people I have met here are anything but bland or pompous or financially-oriented. I can't speak to the racial diversity of Princeton compared to Harvard or Yale, but from what I can see, Princeton is very diverse with people coming from all over the globe and from 47 of the 50 states in the class of 2012</p>
<p>Indeed,</p>
<p>Princeton > Yale > Harvard</p>
<p>It might be disputed which of the two is better, Princeton or Yale, but anyone who claims Harvard is better than either Princeton or Yale has not done an adequate amount of research on all three schools.</p>
<p>Yeah, exactly. Although based on accounts I've heard from Stanford, it rivals, or at least approaches Yale in terms of undergraduate education, regardless of the much larger numbers of graduate students. This is not necessarily an accurate sample, so obviously, I'm not using it as proof positive of anything. Someone can correct me if my perception is totally wrong.</p>
<p>I think it's true. In my less than exhaustive experience, the students at both Yale and Stanford seem happiest with their undergraduate experience. Don't get me wrong, the kids I've known who were lucky enough to get into Princeton love the place (and it is beautiful, and it does boast a truly impressive faculty), but they also seem somewhat put off by the lingering air of layers upon layers of exclusivity. Hopefully Princeton's committment to instutiting a college system like the one at Yale will change this over time.</p>
<p>Someone tell me the fallacy in:
Princeton > Harvard > Yale in undergrad education.</p>
<p>WHERE IS IT?</p>
<p>It's definitely not Princeton > Harvard, nor Princeton > Yale. I mean come on, student faculty ratio, student money ratio, our precept system, honor code, McGraw, I don't see how undergrad education quality could be better at Harvard or Yale. </p>
<p>Perhaps some of you think Yale > Harvard in undergrad education quality?</p>
<p>Hahahha this thread = reason you do NOT want to go to princeton.
So full of it :)
Almost everyone I know thinks Princeton's social scene is hilarious.. especially the ones who actually go there.
Yale>Harvard>Princeton for experience
Harvard>Yale>Princeton for prestige</p>
<p>Please get lives kthx</p>
<p>^
Kshul, lol. You're the same person that made "eating clubs are elitist" thread. Please don't speak for these schools since you don't go to any of them. Seems like you're the one who needs "to get a life".</p>