Private Universities and Colleges Not Worth It for Upper Income Families?

^^^ Which is why car magnets were invented like 25 years ago!

Although, it appears, Harvard does not offer them. (Too plebeian, I guess?) One must commit to Harvard with an actual window sticker. :smiley:

Each of the not so impressive colleges my kids go to are on my car window. They all attach via static cling rather than glue or magnets. So if they transfer or flunk out they can be swapped out.

Here’s one for Tufts.

http://tufts.bncollege.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Static_Cling/ProductDisplay?parentCatId=40364&imageId=84951&level=2&graphicId=STATIC9&categoryId=40376&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&storeId=20051&productId=400000006501&topCatId=40350

^I don’t want a static cling thing, you can’t read them through the tinted glass. I want an old fashioned bumper sticker - though a magnet would also work.

They make some static cling stickers for exteriors, designed for tinted windows.

The one in #317 is a magnet.

@LucieTheLakie, the Coop has much more selection in its physical store than online.

I know this thread is old, but I’m researching this as a senior in high school. I am one of those students that had the 4 years of hell taking the hardest courses I could find at a competitive school.

ACT: 31 (bad at standardized tests)
GPA: 5.0 (6.0 based AP scale weighted) (3.9 unweighted)
AP’s: AP Chemistry, AP World History, AP Physics: Mechanical C, Ap language, Ap Literature, Ap environmental science, Ap Psychology

I decided to apply to one of each in each range and my parents said yes. Living in Alabama I applied to Auburn and received a scholarship for tuition. Then I applied to Purdue Engineering and got in. I am waiting on UPenn.

My parents decided to change their minds and budget on what they are willing to pay. ENSURE YOU ARE CONSISTENT. This experience sucks. I do not like auburn, but am not finding these other schools to be in range with their budget. On top of that they told me after scholarship deadlines and application deadlines for scholarships are through.

Best advice from a somewhat high achieving high schooler is to have a plan and stick to it and despite the parents thoughts, if your daughter has to attend state school, set goals and make her meet them and allow her to be a bit more laxidaiscal. To be honest, my biggest regret as a highschool senior is spending my time on just academics and extracurriculars when all I needed was to a state school that most of my high school class will have some sort of scholarship to. There was always vague understanding of what we could afford, knowing we won’t get help from FAFSA, but given that my sister is in college and my brother is after me we never had a set plan.

By the way, forget the other parents discrimination. In today’s world YOU MUST START PREPPING FOR COLLEGE FRESHMEN YEAR OF HIGHSCHOOL. It is far more competitive and I started thinking about college I’m eighth grade. Push her to do her best without too much stress and give a clear budget that you will not break. Nothing is worse than feeling like you’ve worked hard and got in and then cannot go without pre-existing knowledge of the financial situation you are in.

I am strongly of the opinion that a top 10 or 20 school is a great opportunity for the right student, and a disaster for many others.

A few things I would consider:

  1. The majority of kids who have a real shot at a top 10 school know it by 8th grade. Unfortunately, many others think they know it. Most parents can't tell the difference between a good and great student. Try to get some handle on that with your GC if you think she has that level of ability. A PSAT, SAT or ACT can be helpful in knowing where you stand. DD1 is at Penn and her PSAT was 182 (ACT equivalent is 27) the summer before she began high school. (I bought an old exam on eBay and timed it myself). I was told that this was typical for a kid with a reasonable chance at a top 10 - 20 school.
  2. In my experience, even if a student has the ability, a parent trying to guide a kid toward admission to a top college only works when the kid is driving the bus. It is doomed if it is the parents dream. If it is the kid's dream, and you are supporting them, it has a chance. What does she want to do?
  3. Don't assume that all Ivy bound kids are basket cases. They are not. In my experience too many AP's hurt your chance at an Ivy. 15 or 20 APs suggests that the student is very one dimensional. Many Ivy league students take 6-10 AP's. In DD1s high school class, 15 students enrolled in an Ivy, but the kid that took the most APs and had the highest gpa was rejected by all the Ivies and went to the state flagship. Don't make that mistake.
  4. Don't assume that deciding to "just" attend a top state school means you can "relax a little and step back from the rat race." That is especially true if that flagship is Michigan, Berkeley, Virginia, North Carolina, UCLA, Wisconsin, Illinois, Florida, Ohio State, or Texas. Getting into state flagships may have been a joke when you went to school, but it is not a joke today. These schools reject applicants with 30+ ACT scores on a regular basis.
  5. You said she is interested in premed. Premed is very different from many other majors. Realize that Med schools care a lot about grades, so attending a top 10 school where it is more difficult to earn high grades is of very questionable value for a premed student. Also know that the percent of college freshmen in premed who end up being doctors is low.
  6. Know that choosing her major well will have a larger impact on her lifetime income than attending a top college. If student and parent investigated majors that align the students interests and reasonable future job opportunities half as much as they spend worrying about colleges, they would be much better off. A Harvard degree in basket weaving is probably not better than an engineering degree from a directional state university from a financial perspective.