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I find it extremely disheartening that the American society has decided it's perfectly fine to break the law. No wonder we have so many problems.
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<p>The day we stop breaking unjust laws is the day we, as a nation, lose. It is perfectly ok to break unjust laws. But not if you're on probation.</p>
<p>Sure melanieeek, I absolutely can. But it's much easier for me to just point out that it's against the law. Afterall, my eating habits of fried food could also be considered extremely unhealthy as can the alcohol or smoking or whatever.</p>
<p>bobbinheadoll, it's really up to you. It truly makes no difference to me if you feel the need to possibly screw up your life. Just remember, you're the one in the predicament; not me.</p>
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The day we stop breaking unjust laws is the day we, as a nation, lose. It is perfectly ok to break unjust laws. But not if you're on probation.
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<p>That's new.. I didn't know each individual got to decide which laws they were going to obey and which they didn't feel applied to them. Last I knew that was up to the courts and the legislature to decide as written in the United States Constitution.</p>
<p>Hops_scout I was merely asking people for basic knowledge. I didn't know if underage drinking was covered under my probation. I never asked for your advice on what to do, and even if you gave it to me I wouldn't take it seeing as I would be the one with the consequences. And I have no feelings for you either so don't go feeling all special cause you think you're more mature than the rest of us by not drinking. </p>
<p>I never said I was fine to break the laws. As a matter of fact I wanted to know if my consequences would get me into further trouble so I could avoid it.</p>
<p>"I find it extremely disheartening that the American society has decided it's perfectly fine to break the law."</p>
<p>Perhaps if the majority of our laws were reasonable and in line with the Constitution, then that wouldn't be the case. But in this case, I don't see underaged drinking being the issue, but rather the arbitrary raise in the drinking age Reagan demanded states observe if they wanted federal highway funding, which he only called for after some tearjerker stories from MADD. Yes, some people misuse alcohol, but the shift in drinking age hasn't helped one bit. It has however, further illustrated how arbitrary and asinine the vast majority of our laws are, and therefore why they ought to be ignored, or at the very least, scoffed at.</p>
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if you get in trouble again, you may be put on Double Secret probation
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<p>hahahahah.</p>
<p>bobbinheadoll, i would stay away from all forms of illegal behavior. probation means that the court issued you a suspended sentence, which means that if you get in any other trouble you might have to go to jail for this period of time. I would recommend you keep your nose very clean and it is only six months. its over before you know it and the more trouble you get it the longer it will be. someone should have explained this to you. speed tickets don't count, but anything beyond a jaywalking ticket will land you back in court.</p>
<p>bobbin, don't you think you should do your own research? This is a lot more serious than asking for stranger's opinions on your ECs or something. Check your state's website etc.</p>
<p>aclu.org, norml.org</p>
<p>You can probably ask your probation officer what are the details of your probation, etc. You do have a right to know those things.</p>
<p>I understand it'll be really hard not to drink for the first 6 months of college, so just do it in moderation, don't do anything dumb while drinking, and DON'T GET CAUGHT.</p>
<p>"Perhaps if the majority of our laws were reasonable and in line with the Constitution, then that wouldn't be the case. But in this case, I don't see underaged drinking being the issue, but rather the arbitrary raise in the drinking age Reagan demanded states observe if they wanted federal highway funding, which he only called for after some tearjerker stories from MADD. Yes, some people misuse alcohol, but the shift in drinking age hasn't helped one bit. It has however, further illustrated how arbitrary and asinine the vast majority of our laws are, and therefore why they ought to be ignored, or at the very least, scoffed at."</p>
<p>Yes so true. When we turn 18 we are considered adults and as such can be tried in a court of law as one. But....we don't get to drink or gamble until 21...?</p>
<p>Am I not an adult? </p>
<p>The drinking age should never have been made a law. But, as the majority of people who drink are just stupid, the law will never be repealed. Drivers licenses are being issued at a higher age now too.</p>
<p>^^I mean, this discussion isn't really about the drinking age. It's about this guy's terms of probation..and I'd say it'd probably be safe to drink at smaller gatherings where there's not a raging party that's going to get busted.</p>
<p>I personally agree that we should revert to the pre-1980s stance on drinking ages, where each state set its own drinking age rather than the federal government forcing states to set a specific age and holding their highway funding (paid by <em>our</em> federal income tax and gas tax) at hostage. Even if it isn't unconstitutional because it is funding related (a state brought this up to Supreme Court in 1987, IIRC. They lost.), it goes against the heart and soul of the Constitution, which is federalism. It also highlights the danger of increased federal responsibility with funding highways and other things, and how such funding can restrict freedom, but that's another topic and another thread....</p>
<p>But, back on topic, no matter how the law was passed or how it violates the spirit of the Constitution, it's still the current law, and the original poster is still on probation. Anyone caught breaking it is going to get in trouble; the government has money to collect, after all ;). And, it shouldn't be difficult to avoid breaking the law for six months. Hey, I've been to college for two years, still underage, and never have drank. It's not <em>too</em> difficult. Yeah, there will be situations where drinking comes up, such as parties. But the best way to avoid such situations is to not party, try to center your activities around the day than at night, and find non-drinking friends. That's how I deal with it.</p>
<p>I wasn't trying to change the subject, just got carried away is all...</p>
<p>Oh by the way for the OP, if you go to a party and there is alcohol, you CAN be ticketed if you are within three feet of it. Keep that in mind.</p>