<p>Given a slight increase in the number of college-bound seniors this year and changes in the admission and financial aid policies of some schools, I was wondering what the opinions are on CC as to the admit rates for the class of 2012.</p>
<p>The Harvard and Princeton decision to drop EA, I think, will have a ripple effect throughout the system of top school admissions. This decision has freed up admission staffs at H&P during the fall to aggressively recruit from under-represented segments. </p>
<p>Here are projected numbers on admit rates; last year's number is in ():</p>
<p>Harvard 6%; (9%) - aggressive recruiting; new financial aid policies
Yale 7%; (9%) direct beneficiary of H&P dropping EA
Princeton 8%; (10%) aggressive recruiting of under-represented segments
Stanford 9%; (11%) - ditto Yale
Columbia 10%; (12%) - some minor H&P EA decision spillover
Brown 11%; (14%) - popularity continues to sky-rocket as the "un-HYPIvy"
MIT 11%; (13%) some minor spill-over from H&P EA
Dartmouth 13%; (16%) recruiting of international students; some H&P EA decision spillover; new "hot Ivy"
Penn 16% (18%) - a rising carries this boat
Cornell 23% (25%) - Arts & Science and Engineering schools see increase tightening</p>
<p>I think you’re overestimating the size of the applicant pools. For Harvard to drop from 9% to 6%, it would require the amount of applicants to increase by more than 50% (unless they decrease class size significantly) That means nearly 15,000 more applicants. I just don’t see this happening.</p>
<p>Are you suggesting that Harvard and Princeton dropped ED/EA for the sole purpose of making them appear more selective and to recruit even higher quality students? Their press release last year made it appear like they were trying to be more equitable and reduce the stress levels for kids given the extreme competition and knowing kids have to put out many applications with no guaranty of admission at the top schools, even if they do have very high SAT scores and grades.</p>
<p>Are you suggesting they were being sly foxes, knowing it would increase the number of applications?</p>
<p>I wish there was some rule that said that all seniors must submit their first semester grades in every application and no application will be complete or considered until they are received, essentially getting rid of EA/ED for every college!</p>
<p>I think they are trying to achieve both objectives, be more equitable and increase the number of applicants, particularly from under-represented segments. </p>
<p>Good call. I’ve recalibrated. What do you think the rates will be?</p>
<p>Harvard 8%; (9%) - aggressive recruiting; new financial aid policies
Yale 8%; (9%) ? direct beneficiary of H&P dropping EA
Princeton 9%; (10%) ? aggressive recruiting of under-represented segments
Stanford 10%; (11%) - ditto Yale
Columbia 11%; (12%) - some minor H&P EA decision spillover
Brown 13%; (14%) - popularity continues to sky-rocket as the “un-HYPIvy”
MIT 12%; (13%) ? some minor spill-over from H&P EA
Dartmouth 14%; (16%) ? recruiting of international students; some H&P EA decision spillover; new “hot Ivy”
Penn 17% (18%) - a rising carries this boat
Cornell 23% (25%) - Arts & Science and Engineering schools see increase tightening</p>
<p>I actually don’t think that admissions rates will drop more than a percent at most. What will drop, though, are EA/ED admissions rates, and significantly too.</p>
<p>^ I noticed that firsthand - at my school, which regularely sends 20+ kids to ivies (most by ED), EVERY SINGLE PERSON who applied ED at a Ivy this year got 'rejected or deferred. First time ever that so many got rejected, people said.</p>
<p>I am sorry you are not getting your facts straight. FU’s admit rate was 14% and the College 8.9%, overall like 10.4. I am close enough, may be off by a percent.</p>
<p>the Columbia stats may be from past years. Hernandez consulting, on their website, please search, I am not good at attaching ,etc, says overall Columbia admit rate is 10.35, CC is 8.9 and Engineering SEAS is 18 % last year, for class of 2011. This is also something widely reported on other sites.</p>
<p>It is important to make sure the years are comparable for comparisons like this. I’m not 100 percent of the revision cycle on the College Board site, that is whether it is “rolling,” with revisions posted as new information comes in, or whether there is a closing date each year for each year’s new figures, but I would expect that the College Board figures are generally comparable across colleges at any given moment, being based on Common Data Set Initiative reporting.</p>