@Twoin18 I think I heard that the kids have to drive to another state to get alcohol to bring it back! I really got the impression that there’s not even alcohol at Greek parties. I know us adults probably like the idea of drinking being more difficult on a college campus but kids do not. The kids I know who transferred out of Utah love the outdoors. That’s what was appealing. But, like others have said, many kids prefer a place like Boulder where they get a more typical big school experience and the mountains too.
“Utah does appeal to OOS students”
Well Berkeley also appeals to a lot of OOS students, until they see the gpa/sat average of oos admits to be 3.9/1480 and acceptance rate of 15%, then it’s not that appealing. I said this before, I’ll say it again, if you want to say that the UC system is bad, go for it, but do not compare it with Utah.
" Many kids in NJ would be thrilled to get into Rutgers New Brunswick."
Until they see places like Wisconsin, Michigan and UVa.
And then they go to Rutgers anyway. The proportion of students going to these beautiful oos public unis vs the state options and RU is a rounding error.