Public perception

<p>I really would like to know a few things about home-schooling at the US. Her in India, home-schooling is ooked down upon, bu i gather the situation is different there.
Do homeschoolers feel left out and in public, are they viewed upon in the sam manner as school-goers? Do Home-schoolers attend top colleges? Home-schoolers would lose out on certain oppertunities like varsity sports or olympiads...or is it untrue what I mentioned?
Do you guys just do stuidies randomly or do you follw schedules as if you were at school?</p>

<p>I apologise, if my posts seem offensive, but i'm just trying to get soe info.
Thanks</p>

<p>I must say that homeschoolers spell quite well. They take pride in writing correctly in their posts. Hope this helps!</p>

<p>Probably the best way you could get all those questions answered would be to do lots of reading at: <a href="http://www.hslda.org%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.hslda.org&lt;/a> and <a href="http://www.nheri.org%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.nheri.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Also look at: <a href="http://www.welltrainedmind.com%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.welltrainedmind.com&lt;/a> and <a href="http://www.home-school.com%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.home-school.com&lt;/a> </p>

<p>Homeschooling is alive and well in the U.S. and many other countries.</p>

<p>Homeschoolers do just as well as anyone else, and hence, they also attend top colleges and receive excellent jobs after graduating. I don't think I have missed out on anything due to homeschooling. I have received a wonderful education, and I feel well-prepared for college when it starts in the fall.</p>

<p>Dear Arjun,
Back when I first started homeschooling my sons, about 18 years ago, the first question everyone asked was, "Is that legal?" Attitudes have changed greatly since then. Now most people I meet know someone who homeschools and usually look upon it quite favorably. </p>

<p>Homeschoolers have many opportunities through homeschool groups, community groups, and even the public schools. In our state, homeschoolers may take part in sports, debate, music, and various competitions through the public schools. Some of the activities my sons did included Boy Scouts, church groups, community sports teams, middle school and high school basketball and tennis, Science Bowl, band and musical competitions.</p>

<p>There are many ways of homeschooling. Some people follow a strict schedule, using textbooks. Others homeschool more informally, using a variety of materials and methods. And some "unschool," letting the student follow his or her interests as the student chooses.</p>

<p>Homeschoolers attend all the same colleges as any other students, including the top colleges in the nation. My older son graduated from Stanford last year.</p>

<p>And Justinian, be nice. The poster said he is from India, so some imperfections in spelling are perfectly understandable.</p>

<p>Justinian, what's up with the shi-tty-a$$ attitude? Pipe down sonny.</p>

<p>Well Arjun, here in the US there are mixed views on homeschooling. Certainly those that get homeschooled can get into a good college if their standardized testing can backup their performance with their homeschooled subjects. And as Susan said, many of those who are homeschooled don't just stay home all day and not interact with society. Many take classes at a local community college or even a few through a public High School. </p>

<p>The worry or discrimination for homeschoolers is that the parents my be lenient on the kids and just give them the A's. One case in my school that seems to have sparked a debate is there is this girl who was homeschooled for basically all of the first 2 years of high school, but then took 3 classes or so during Junior year. They were all weighted classes (weighted A = 5.0 on a 4.0 scale), and she didn't have to take gym, so that didn't lower her GPA. Because of her situation she could get a perfect GPA of 5.0 entering onto her high school transcript (also our high school limits number of honrs classes for freshmen so she has a huge advantage here). So controversy is that she might be the validctorian if she continues to goto my high school.</p>

<p>You can see what arguments might come about here.</p>

<p>I know a homeschooling family where two out of three children homeschooled, and the third opted for public high school precisely because he wanted to participate in sports. This worked for him, but others find ways to participate in sports without attending school.</p>

<p>Most homeschool families I know are flexible in their choices, and choose homeschooling on a child by child, year by year basis. What's right for one child might not be right for the next, and what's right this year might not be next year. </p>

<p>As far as curriculum goes, my daughter looked at what she would need to do to get into a good college, and started working on it. She had home based courses, courses taught by other people in the community, some distance courses, and even took two classes at the local high school. She chose her path, and had our input and support in it. We held family meetings, in which she set specific short and long term goals, and we worked with her directly on various subjects when she requested it. She is now attending her first choice top college.</p>

<p>My daughter's path was unique to her, which is one of the advantages of homeshooling. It can make for interested and interesting students, and colleges know this. However, since homeschoolers have unique learning paths, colleges must look a little more carefully at homeschool applications. This can be an advantage if a student has real work and accomplishments to show, but can be a disadvantage if the student is trying to get away with something. </p>

<p>Each school has its own requirements of homeschooled applicants, and most are savvy enough to see past the sort of thing coolkash$ mentioned with the GPA. An applicant with such an oddly skewed GPA better have test scores, essays, and other material to back it up, and they'd better present the GPA in context, or it's unlikely the application would be seriously considered by better schools.</p>

<p>"And Justinian, be nice. The poster said he is from India, so some imperfections in spelling are perfectly understandable."</p>

<p>Dear susantm,
I sincerely hope you did not write the above remark in jest/sarcasm.Its so convenient for people from western countries to look condescendingly upon India as some third world country filled with snake charmers and tantriks.If one would have read arjun's post it is clear that the spelling errors on his part were due to the haste in which he has typed his post ("but i'm just trying to get soe info.").I admit at least half of India's population does not speak English very well(for that is not their national language) but I'm sure you would have noticed that lots of companies in U.S.A. are outsourcing call center jobs to the english-speaking youth of India.</p>

<p>cooladu, Susantm's remark was clearly in defense of the original poster. The second poster was trolling and she called him on it. Now, it's probably best not to take any more bait, and return to the original topic.</p>

<p>Are you a homeschooler, cooladu? If so, what's your experience been like? Are you in the process of preparing for college?</p>

<p>Cooladu, nan is correct. I certainly do not look down upon people from any country. I was simply asking that we read what the poster wanted to say and not judge on a few minor errors. I never did get fluent in a foreign language, so I have utmost respect for those who speak more than one language.</p>

<p>*susantm.....gracious of you to say that........and I've just discovered my natural talent in a new sport-----Jumping to conclusions.........lol.........</p>

<p>Thanks for the replies.</p>

<p>Susantm, Actuallly my errors are not due to my schooling, but because I tend to type very fast...hence I tend to leave a letter or 2 out of some words. I don't think apart from saying "bu" fro "but" or soe for some, if mispelled any words.</p>

<p>just a q, so parents correct home-schoolers answer-sheets? why not get it evaluated by a high-school teacher? u could also study at home and do the exams at a HS...is that possible in the US?</p>

<p>Arjun, depending on where you live, reactions to homeschooling can be a mixed bag. Some like it and sometimes even support it, some have a cool live-and-let-live attitude towards it, and some are just not keen on the idea. Homeschooling is what you make it to be. Homeschooling can be done in an infinite number of ways. And yes, homeschoolers can and do go on to top colleges if they are qualified and if they really wanted to. I suggest you read a lot on the subject. Your local library can help out with that. From then on, once you've exhausted yourself silly with reading, you'll have a much better idea of what homeschooling really is and if you want to do it. Then you can research your state laws on homeschooling and look for people in your area who are homeschooling. Good luck.</p>

<p>ellemeno88, actually you got me wrong. I already finished High-school and am going to University. I posted this thread just to get to know abt Home schooling in the US.</p>

<p>Yes, parents check/correct homeschoolers' work. I don't see any problem with that. If a homeschooler asked a school teacher to check his/her work, I doubt that the teacher would be willing to do that --unless they were a family friend or relative--I think they'd find the request odd, and, of course they aren't paid to do this. Most homeschoolers don't use the same textbooks/tests that schools use; most homeschooling parents have college degrees and are just as qualified to check work as high school teachers--yes we have the answer keys, too! Do you feel that homeschool parents are unqualified, or not objective in checking their own kid's work? School grades are often very subjective, also. That's why everyone in the US uses the same standardized tests.</p>

<p>no no...i'm not saying home-school parents are unqualified.
I was saying, getting it corrected by a HS teacher would help in the sense that she could advise from the point of view of the currculum need.
For instance, my mom's a doctor and has many a times explained me stuff I didn't understand at school. I found a difference in the way my mom and teacher did it. The teacher would guide me from the point of view of the curriculumand my needs at the moment, but my mom in a different way. Both were good...but as kidsdon't they need it from a person who's interacted with other kids a lot.</p>

<p>I'm sorry about my misunderstanding of your situation. In regards to your last questions above, I don't see why it is so. Can you explain why you think it is? It would help me clarify what it really is you want to know.</p>

<p>The way I see it is that experience interacting with other kids isn't necessarily that much a plus. Experience interacting with one particular child -- knowledge of his or her needs, interests, strengths, learning style, etc. -- is something homeschooling parents have and would seem more important. The teaching of a group cannot be as individualized as the teaching of an individual. Further, if a kid doesn't understand a subject at home, the parent addresses the problem. Usually, in regular schools, the class just moves on. Conversely, when a kid could accelerate learning in a particular subject, it is much easier to do it at home than to try to get a regular school to do so.</p>

<p>Certainly, what tests and studies that have looked at homeschooling in the US finds that those students, on average, do significantly better than others. There is certainly no indication that the regularly schooled are better educated. I am just talking averages here -- obviously there is a range of achievement in every type of schooling.</p>

<p>Of course, for any individual student, the best education may not be homeschooling. There is no one size fits all. (My daughter was in private, then public, then homeschooling; my son in public, then private schooling. Where they went depended on their needs at the time.) I would point out that often, if a homeschooling parent feels a particular subject would be better handled by someone else, it is. All the homeschoolers I know have had at least some outside classes.</p>

<p>Perhaps you have problems understanding all this because you are from a country that actually HAS a definite curriculum that must be covered? That certainly isn't true in the US. In my state, the "curriculum" is rather fuzzy and particular knowledge hasn't been required much. Now they are moving to having several knowledge-based tests -- even though they keep dumbing them down, they still have a problem with significant percentages unable to pass them. When the tests become mandatory for graduation (we are now in a phase-in period where kids take the tests, but they don't affect graduation yet), I don't know what they are going to do. Right now, it seems they keep on delaying implementation of the final stage.</p>

<p>Frankly, it seems like in the US, parents are more likely interested in their children obtaining certain factual knowledge than many teachers are, given the pedagogical ideology in vogue in teacher's colleges. Hence, the importance of standardized exams for college admission, rather than strictly looking at grades. My daughter didn't even have any grades except for a couple college classes and had no difficulty gaining acceptance to several selective schools. Even with those in regular schools, there is lots of outside tutoring going on, because the students just aren't getting it. Also a significant number of students need remedial classes once they are in college (I saw this statistic the other day -- I wish I had kept it!) Grades allow for comparisons of students within a school, but have limited use in comparing students at different schools or judging if particular subject matter has been mastered. </p>

<p>As far as public perception goes, there are probably negative opinions held by some segments of the population with respect to every alternative method of education. Homeschoolers aren't negatively seen by colleges or employers, so I don't really see the importance of the fact that there are people who don't like that educational approach. For every individual that thinks that homeschoolers aren't educated very well, there seems to be someone who thinks that they are able to do better because everything is individualized.</p>

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<p>I guess, here all schools follow the centrally prescribed curriculum, CBSE. All exams are national, as in all schooling students write the same exam set by the CBSE (sorta like ur APs). So all schools follow different curriculums in the US?</p>

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"I guess, here all schools follow the centrally prescribed curriculum, CBSE. All exams are national, as in all schooling students write the same exam set by the CBSE (sorta like ur APs). "</p>

<p>Arjun even though your in India you seem to suffer from high levels of ignorance about the education system there..............all schools DO NOT follow the CBSE Board.........most schools of any given state follow their respective state boards and some schools follow other Boards like ICSE or CBSE.......So after the 10th grade your looking at common national exams for ICSE and CBSE while every state will have its own state board common exam.
At the 12th grade level with competitive entrance exams for technical institutes like IIT-JEE,AIEEE,BITSAT or al India medical entrance tests.Here too every state tends to have its own CET(common entrance test)..........and if anybody reading this finds all this too complicated.....then your right the high-school education system in India,though on a higher academic level,is designed in such a way so as to put its students through the maximum turmoil possible.....</p>