<p>Speaking as a tenured UC professor with current job offers, I do not teach for the money. I am more considering leaving because of how the UCs are treating the students and how they will be moving to provide even less to these students.</p>
<p>And yes, the private universities being considered offer quite a bit more compensation (salary and research support). With more research support being significantly more important than salary differences</p>
<p>Taxguy: I wasn’t talking about outside money. I was talking about research funds from the university.</p>
<p>It would be interesting to see if both the salary and research funding are both affected. If so, it would affect a number of top faculty.</p>
<p>Dh teaches at a med school. In general the MDs get paid more than the PhDs even if they aren’t doing anything clinical.</p>
<p>For the Taxguy,</p>
<p>One comment on research funding, nearly all if not all of the funding required to support faculty driven research is raised by the faculty. Faculty raise the funds for the salaries of the staff, students and fellows in their groups. The external funding provided by the university goes to supporting critical multi-user facilities. Private universities often have more leeway in how they can raise funds for this purpose than do public universities.</p>
<p>A friend who holds two chairs at a public university often talks about the albatross of fundraising.</p>
<p>"I would have thought that UC profs made more money than that. It’s expensive to live in Calif. "</p>
<p>The Cal State professors, including tenured faculty with Ph.D.s, would kill to make that much! I used to date a CSU architecture professor. His low pay, combined with the expectation that he teach 4 demanding lab classes per term, drove him away.</p>
<p>It is VERY expensive to hire a highly ranked science prof. Often you have to hire his top assistants, a few grad students, rehab a lab, and front some research money. UVa tried to go this route and ended up spending millions for each hire. One guy they spent about $20 Million on never showed up. They have given up on going that route.</p>
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<p>You got that right. Here’s a comparison between a UC campus and a CSU campus in the same city, San Diego: </p>
<p>Average annual salary by academic rank, 2008-09</p>
<p>San Diego State (CSU system):
Assistant Prof. $72,200
Associate Prof. $78,900
Professor $99,300</p>
<p>UCSD (UC system):
Assistant Prof. $77,700
Associate Prof. $85,500
Professor $133,800</p>
<p>And San Diego State salaries are among the highest in the Cal State system.</p>
<p>This is a fascinating thread.</p>
<p>UCSD is heavily weighted to science. Science profs make much more than Ed and Comm Arts profs and in the long run bring in MUCH more money than they get paid. The others–not so much.</p>
<p>Wow, my ex would have killed for those SDSU salaries. His CSU paid way less.</p>