I didn’t get into the honors college at U Arizona since they have a separate application which has to be submitted by December 2 and I applied after than deadline.
Hey, guys, another aspect that I was made aware of was that UT Dallas has a really bad business school. but I was also hoping to get something like a business minor along with CS.
Also, UTD has a great computer science course but the other majors are not so good whereas U Arizona is highly ranked in other stuff as well if I decide to change my major(I don’t plan to but I don’t know what will happen in the next two years) ex: U A is no3 in the US for the MIS major which is a combination of IT and business management.
This means that if I go to UTD with the honors course I will be stuck with it with very little flexibility to change or do some other stuff on my own.
Please advise me ASAP
Purdue doesn’t rank #9 in CS. It’s more like #20s by US News.
Rankings are fairly worthless for stuff like this as they tend to measure faculty research output.
UTD seems pretty good for working in the Metroplex but you likely wouldn’t be able to work in the US straight out of undergrad anyway.
My personal opinion is a MIS degree isn’t worth it even for American applicants. What do companies in your home country think?
Being in Dallas with a CS degree would almost certainly mean CPT internships and OPT. Not sure about what it’d mean for your other options.
@wally1688 Purdue is no10 this year but it doesn’t matter now that I’ve decided that it’s not worth the cost.
@PurpleTitan Why do you think an MIS degree is worthless?
I am thinking of doing a double degree in CS and MIS.
I saw a comparison between the CS and MIS and the main difference is that the Core Task for MIS is to determine business requirements for information systems and for CS is to deliver information systems to meet defined requirements. Hence I feel I will exponentially increase my worth in the mind of an employer if I know how to do both the things.
And of course, I can work in the US straight out of undergrad as part of OPT for 3 years without a work visa. After that, I will need a work visa(most likely an H1B) to continue working.
@MYOS1634 I will have CPT opportunities like Co-ops or Internships in all universities. UA also has what they call experiential learning which is more or less the same thing but it is a part of their 100% engagement initiative where everyone graduates with some kind of work experience.
Though a double degree will load me with a lot of course work, I still have the flexibility to chose in the future if I want to continue with it or do something else since other majors/minors like Entrepreneurship are also highly ranked in UA(#10)
^ Yes, but UT-D has a good reputation in the Metroplex, which offers more job opportunities than Tuscon. Granted, Phoenix is close to Tuscon, but I don’t know how well UArizona places.
And MIS isn’t seen as a serious degree because a lot of people (from many different majors) can gather business requirements. Actual coding is tougher work.
I just found out that the December 2nd deadline is not a hard and fast one. I can still be admitted to honors college if I want to.
But should I?
I mean I am already thinking of doing a double degree…
But I don’t quite understand how UA’s honors college works. UTD has a dedicated curriculum for the CS^2 honors program (which I got into BTW), but UA doesn’t.
Could somebody please explain how honors college works in UA?
@PurpleTitan you’re right and that’s why I am not doing just MIS rather MIS+CS. I might do it, I might not and do entrepreneurship instead along with CS.
I think if Eller is so highly ranked I should capitalise on the opportunity and do at least some kind of degree from it.
I don’t know how well U Arizona places either hence I request someone to give their input on that.
But don’t you believe that in subjects like CS its more of your capability and talent than the school you go to? Isn’t that why I took on going to the more affordable school rather than Purdue, this is my opinion so please correct me if I am wrong.
“But don’t you believe that in subjects like CS its more of your capability and talent than the school you go to?”
Then why do you care where Eller is ranked?
Locale also matters.
^Eller is the business school(Eller College of Mangement).
And I agree locale does matter, you’re right.
Also like I asked, could you explain to me how honors college in UA works and how it is different from UTD?
MIS= 1 year OPT, CS=3 year OPT so be careful about what you choose.
If I were you I’d do CS major, MIS minor, not a double major.
UA’s honors college offers smaller classes, priority registration, access to special opportunities, but you can just compare them side by side if you wish. For instance, UA has the STEM-MBA program that may be more relevant for you than CS/MIS. HOnors doesn’t add extra courses, it just replaces large lectures with smaller, interactive classes.
You can also email career services and ask where international students have been able to intern in the past 5 years as well as email International Students Services to ask whether they help in finding OPT and how successful at OPT their students are.
I understand Eller is the b-school, but even there, rankings are fairly worthless. You really have to figure out industry by industry what is valued (and in most cases, businesses would hire locally).
@MYOS1634 Thank you for that point. I didn’t know the OPT Legalities about that I’ll be sure to take a look into it. Thank you for explaining how honors works as well.
@PurpleTitan Thank you for that I’ll keep that in mind. And since I can only declare other major/minors when I get there I’ll still have the whole summer to figure it out.
@ThePoliteBoy Purdue ranks #20: https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-science-schools/computer-science-rankings
^ that’s graduate school. What matters for grad school (research output) is different from what matters to undergraduates (costs, good teaching, support/opportunities).
Well, usually graduate school ranking is more regarded than the undergraduate ranking in the fields.
If your parents have the money, morevthan you are letting on here, if you can show you can pay for Purdue with hard numbers to even get into this country , go right on ahead and go there. If your Situation is purely as you describe it, there is no further discussion or decision. You would not be able to afford Purdue.
No, I do not believe borrowing the difference is worth it. Or spending essential funds for Purdue vs UDallas.