Puzzling presenter's talk - Why Barnard?

<p>Recently an admissions officer came to my school to talk about Barnard in a way that was slightly puzzling… she spent the majority of her time talking about Barnard’s prime location in NYC and very lovely relationship with Columbia - So now I know a lot about Barnard’s super tight sibling relationship with Columbia but not much about the school itself. Is the main selling point of going to Barnard really just that it’s physically and socially close to Columbia?</p>

<p>I’m coming off that presentation a little disappointed! I’m also an international student so I won’t be able to visit before I apply. My question is - Why Barnard?</p>

<p>Was there an opportunity for Q&A? What questions did you ask?</p>

<p>@calmom there were a bunch of other presenters and so there wasn’t much time to talk afterwards - I was very surprised at how the Barnard representative didn’t really highlight anything unique about the actual school though - besides from vaguely explaining Barnard’s 9 Ways of Knowing the majority of her speech was spent focusing on the history between Barnard and Columbia, Columbia’s resources and cross-enrollment policies, how your graduation diploma will be presented in collaboration with Columbia university etc… I was very surprised she chose to highlight so much about Columbia and so little about Barnard as a whole!</p>

<p>@13lia1 was the presenter a Barnard admissions employee or just an alumni who happens to live near your school? Maybe, because you are internationally located, they have alums doing those presentations?? Just trying to figure out why it would be so badly done!</p>

<p>@13lia1 – Perhaps the presenter has learned from experience that the students and families she talks to are most interested in learning about the Barnard history and Columbia affiliation. I would expect that a presenter in the states might also talk about the benefits of the women’s college (female empowerment, etc. ) --but perhaps that is not something that is so interesting to international audiences. Or were the other presenters also from women’s colleges? (If it was a “seven sisters” event, then of course there would be no need for a Barnard presenter to elaborate on that).</p>

<p>If the presenter only had a few minutes to talk with a group of several presenters, I can see why she would highlight the aspects of Barnard that most set it apart from the others – and make a point to answer the questions that she is most commonly asked.</p>

<p>Going back to my post – if you had been given an opportunity to ask questions, what would you have wanted to know?</p>

<p>It seems to me that the presenter did talk about the aspects that make Barnard college unique and set it apart from others. </p>

<p>Beyond that, when it comes to academics: all liberal arts colleges in the U.S.are essentially the same. Some are more rigorous than others, some are slightly smaller and some are slightly larger, there are some variations in course requirements, but beyond that the main distinctions are factors like their location (urban vs. suburban vs. rural) and special resources they have, often through affiliations with other colleges and universities. </p>

<p>It sounds like the presenter did touch upon Barnard’s 9-Ways-of-Knowing curriculum, so I am wondering what else you might have expected? Barnard’s close affiliation with Columbia and its urban setting are the most salient factors that distinguish it from other LAC’s. If you were to attend Barnard, those are qualities that you would be very much aware of, every single day. You can’t attend Barnard without also attending Columbia – even if you managed to avoid ever signing up for any courses at Columbia, you would still end up attending Columbia events and using Columbia resources. The same is true of the New York location – if you are at Barnard you are living in the city – the campus is much to small to provide any sense of isolation from the surrounding community. </p>

<p>If you have particular interests, then there are many other things that can be said about Barnard. My daughter was a dancer, so of course she was very interested in learning about Barnard’s excellent dance department. She was interested in continuing her Russian language studies, so it was valuable for us to know that Barnard & Columbia have a joint (shared) Slavic language department. </p>

<p>But how does a presenter talking to a group know that a student has a particular interest? If there is an opportunity for Q&A, then those issues can be discussed. </p>

<p>As a parent, I was most impressed with the close relationships that Barnard students form with their faculty – my daughter still maintains contact with several professors, even 4 years post-graduation. That certainly is what sets Barnard and its students apart from Columbia – and probably is at the root of the jealousy and resentment some Columbia students express toward Barnard-- but that is a quality that most LAC’s claim to offer and is inherent in the LAC model. So again, if the other presenters were also from LAC’s, that wouldn’t be much of a talking point.</p>

<p>How many different colleges were represented? If you remember, can you share the names of some of the other colleges? </p>

<p>“It seems to me that the presenter did talk abut the aspects that make Barnard college unique and set it apart from others.”</p>

<p>Exactly.
(plus the all-girl thing, of course)</p>

<p>Most prospective students ought to know by this time what subjects liberal arts colleges generally offer. What they want to know now is which to apply to. To wit, their question likely is:
"How is this school diffent than : Wellesley, Smith, (…etc)? "
Those features mentioned in #1 are indeed its most fundamental distinguishing features vs, the others, Which would appropriately be highllighted in a brief presentation. </p>

<p>Not to the exclusion of all else, of course.</p>