The PDFs are available: https://www.khanacademy.org/test-prep/sat/new-sat-tips-planning/new-sat-how-to-prep/a/full-length-sats-to-take-on-paper
Yes, they should just have the less expensive Student Answer Service and put the tests on the web. It’s hard to convince College Board and ACT to give up their revenue sources.
A quick scan through and I would agree that test 5 is what I took in May. The reading and English sections are definitely the same, but my nature is to block out any math I have done once it is complete (an instinct that for me goes back 3 decades!). In the meantime, I’m still waiting. Today’s mail did have my latest issue of Consumer Reports…
As I suspected: no “except” questions, no analogy questions. The Khan Academy material features both question types very frequently–it wasn’t produced by the College Board. @YoLolololol
Has anyone gotten the QAS yet?
@momof2ky, No. I’m still waiting as well, and I am SO doggone happy that I paid for the QAS when CB has already posted the test for free that I spent 75 dollars (and a Saturday morning in May when I would’ve rather been playing with my infant son) to take.
Meanwhile, in today’s mail, we received our Amazon order of DEET-free mosquito repellent candles and a book for our son… but no QAS…
^ With some alarm, I misread your post as “mosquito repellent candies”, which I never would have given to my kids.
I thought they were not letting tutors register for the new SAT. How did you slip by? I still won’t do it – way too old and too impatient. But I do think anyone who paid for QAS is owed a refund. Though I guess they would say that the value is in seeing how you answered and not merely in seeing the test itself.
I registered for March, then I was bumped to May (along with anyone else over the age of 18 due to “security concerns”. Following the May test there seemed to be indications that tutors and others out of high school would only be allowed to take the test on QAS dates (Jan/May/Oct). I had planned on taking it again in October to get the QAS (and give me another real test for my research and other future practice uses), but now I’m already rethinking my decision to do that.
If I was a student taking the test early in my search, I would still like the QAS to see my good and bad questions, but as a tutor who half-focused throughout the test, my results don’t matter.
Now that I have experienced how the test is administered and proctored, I don’t feel the need to do it again if the test’s going to be posted online before I would get my results. I’d much rather spend that money on mosquito repellent CANDIES (they prevent Zika AND give you fresh breath)!
Still waiting too. I’m a tutor as well, so I guess there is no more need to take it if the exams are posted on Khan Academy.
I have to say, though, it was enlightening to take it “for real”. What is really funny is that I didn’t sleep well the night before - I was nervous. I had nothing at all riding on it, yet I couldn’t sleep! I have more empathy for my students and their nervousness now.
I was a little too slow and careful in the “no - calculator” section of the math and didn’t have enough time to do the last two problems.
@loriyacht , be sure to take the ACT as well. I am a much better teacher after taking that test “live fire”. Meanwhile… It’s now September 3rd… still no QAS… but we did receive some textbooks in the mail today from Amazon…
09/30/2016 and still no QAS. We paid for this service when registered for May SAT.
Kid is taking Oct SAT and I paid for QAS also.
This is frustrating
@midtntutor – did you get books you had not ordered? Me too – at least I have no memory of ordering them. Anyone else? (my D is a senior…but we have not ordered any QAS.)
No, I haven’t received any additional books from them. What books did you receive? Do they have any relevancy for your D’s test prep?
@VANURSEPRAC , welcome to the QAS waiting room. There’s lukewarm water in the fountain in the corner and a 13-inch old-style TV showing a constant loop of Khan Academy SAT Videos on the wall.
@pckeller, My daughter used your Algebra for young students and it was extremely helpful, so I thank you.
@midntutor and anyone else that is a very serious tutor, What do you think about D21 taking the SAT for just exposure to it and no stress for the test. The only thing we are out is my money and her time. She does like to compete against herself
She is in eight grade so the test will be deleted.
I don’t think it’s necessary to take the full SAT in 8th Grade. She may take the PSAT 9/10th grade edition next year, and if she takes the big test too soon it could intimidate her for future tests when they count. I have had to deal with a handful of students over the years who took the ACT to qualify for a TIPS study program, and they had to overcome memories about how hard the math and science sections were (as they had not had physics or Algebra II as 7th graders).
I always recommend a student take a first test “cold” at the end of sophomore year (April/June ACT or May/June SAT). That will give you an accurate and current baseline, and D will get her first time baptism by fire at a time when she’s starting to see the importance of taking these tests. Then, you would have the summer before 11th grade to address any glaring problems. You’re welcome to PM Me if you have more questions.
@midntutor
There is no PSAT 9/10 edition. There is a PSAT 10, which is the same test as the regular PSAT, and there is a PSAT 8/9.
I agree that most students should not be worried about the SAT in 8th grade. However, if a student has an urgent need to make NMF, I think it is better to make sure the student is on track, especially in reading, as soon as possible, and certainly earlier than the Spring of 10th grade.
If the student is on track, I agree that the summer between 10th and 11th grade is a fine time to start prep. However, if the student is not on track, the summer before 11th grade is too late. The NMF PSAT is in October of 11th grade.
How are you going to move an EBR 600 in reading in July to NMF zone (probably 750 or better) by the following October? Two months is too little to add 150 points to reading. Someone who is 150 points behind on reading needs to start reading regularly yesterday. Building the basic skills tested by the SAT takes a long time.
It is true there are ways other than an official PSAT test for an 8th grader to verify whether she is on track. She could do a practice test at home under simulated test conditions, or take the PSAT 8/9 if available at her school.
On the other hand, one advantage of sitting a real PSAT is that you get the test booklet back with your answers, and given the paucity of official practice materials, this is not to be overlooked. Some young students are able to put their scores into perspective. Students headed for NMF often are able to do this.
I have seen many parents and students who regretted that they did not start their preparation earlier. I have never seen a parent or student who regretted that they did not start preparation later.
I should know better than to post while taking cold medicine! I was thinking about the PSAT 8/9 and got the numbers mixed in my congested head. Thanks for the heads-up correction.
I will agree with you that taking the PSAT is fine for an 8th grader (especially for higher-level students). I was concerned about vanurseprac’s daughter taking the full-blown, big money SAT that year. Especially for students who could be on a NMF track, I agree it’s important to be thinking ahead (and students of that caliber can think that far ahead).
On two occasions when I took the circa March 2005-Jan. 2016 SAT, there were Junior High students who were signing in to take the test to qualify for the Duke TIPS Program. One 7th grade boy was in my room for a brief time before the proctor saw the mistake and directed him to a special room for those younger students. Until that moment, he looked scared TO DEATH to be in a room with a bunch of h.s. juniors (and 1 long out of school tutor). I also don’t want a younger student to do so poorly on a big test that they develop ACT/SAT phobias; I have had to work through that very issue on several occasions.
I am dealing right now with the parents who didn’t start in time, and yes there is a lot of regret in those cases.
On the flip side, I have also been asked to work with students who started hard-core prep as 9th graders, and by the time they came to me at start of 12th grade they had long-since plateaued, and I struggled to help them because they had already taken every test I had in my arsenal. There’s a balance somewhere in the test prep timeline, but I think that balance does vary from student to student.
Finally, a great majority of my students have parents whose parents KNOW they’re not going to sniff NM air, and they’re simply hoping that they can convince their kid to work hard enough to get into a decent state or regional university. We abandoned our PSAT class about 5 years ago because too many parents wanted to wait until our January ACT class so they could spend their money on the “real” test. Mind you, I’m in a geographic area where I get 1 SAT call for every 15 ACT Calls, so that factors into it as well.
Thanks for the civil and well-considered dialogue here in the QAS waiting room, where it is now officially THREE MONTHS since the May SAT… and still no QAS in my mailbox. At this point I am wondering if it will arrive in time for my son to use it as practice (he’s less than a year old)!
@Plotinus, @midtntutor, The reading part is really what worries me the most on the PSAT/SAT. We need NMF in Texas for college to be affordable. She is already signed up for SAT OCT 1 with QAS. She does not have anxiety over it. She did already qualify for Duke Tip but it was because her math score as she is in geometry in 8th grade. But I will push reading more. She will also take the PSAT 8/9 Oct 19th in school.
Both of these will be unprepped so I can see how much we really need to work hard on the reading.
But even so, I will have her read a lot more than her teenage dystopian books.
Hopefully with NMF we can look at UA, OU, OSU (OK), UTDallas, and the like.
September 12, 2016. Still no May QAS. In fact, there was absolutely nothing in the mail today. Oh well, beats getting a bunch of bills.
Wow. 4 months later and still no QAS.
CB must be “cleaning” up that test before it releases it for public scrutiny. Why else the delay?
that’s exactly what they are doing…