Question about grades and greek

<p>Hi! I'm just wondering what are the chances for a major in bio to get a good grade, if I committed greek, and prob join a sport club? I mean like getting in med school good grade.</p>

<p>I can tell you no matter what bio you are in (human, molecular, biochem, zoology, etc) you’ll have to put in a lot of hours studying, particularly as classes get harder. Depending on how good you are at time management you can probably still get good grades. You will probably have to miss some meetings, parties, and events though.</p>

<p>Is it true that going greek takes a lot of time and effort, and there are many parties throughout the semester? If so, then how come there are still a lot of posts and websites say going greek usually have higher GPA? Btw, I’m going to be majoring in biological science as a second bachelor’s student this fall.</p>

<p>I can’t say anything on Greek life. It’s not my cup of tea and my major experience with greeks is the frat down the street from me who I loath because they litter the street with broken glass every other weekend.</p>

<p>I wouldn’t trust self reported stuff, since it tends to be biased. I have seen studies that say greek life will have a negative effect on GPA the freshmen year and a small improvement after that, that fraternity membership will result in a low GPA, greek life will not affect GPA, and that greek life gives a small advantage. I honestly don’t think greek life is a predictor of anything and it comes down to the individual.</p>

<p>Looking at what the RO says what class you have to take I’m going to warn you that ZOL 341 and ZOL 445 can be really hard to get into. Your best bet for that is to take ZOL 341 in the summer (easier to get into and better class overall even if it is accelerated) unless you really love studying and/or have a million credits already.</p>

<p>That really makes sense. I was actually pretty worried about not having enough self-control, and getting too involved with those parties, events and other stuff.</p>

<p>So you mean there too many students trying to fit in ZOL 341 and ZOL 445? Thanks for all the advice Humanoid. It really helped a lot.</p>

<p>If you are worried about self-control I would suggest holding off on greek life for a semester or two. It is important that you know your limit and know how much you can handle, particularly since you want to be involved in a sport, which from what I have heard can mean 5 practices a week at most. You can certainly fit all the things you want to do into a year but if you aren’t a good time manager or are worried about it I would really only pick two of the three things you are interested it.</p>

<p>Yes there are a lot of students trying to get into the class. I get the feeling every pre-med and life science (which consists of like 5 majors) needs to take genetics (341). I think evolution (445) is better and limited to just life science but it isn’t super easy to get into. I’m an upper junior/nearly senior and I still had a hard time getting into any evolution class.</p>

<p>No problem. If you have nay more questions just ask, I like helping out since I know how confusing everything can be. Also if anything in the above post is confusing just say so, today is my birthday so I’m not thinking too straight if you know what I mean.</p>

<p>Happy birthday!! Don’t know how it’s like in MSU, but hope you had a great birthday party!</p>

<p>As the matter of fact, I do have a little question. It says on the MSU website that every new students are required to take the online math placement exam, and the result of the exam will decide the level of the class for the student. To be honest, I kinda suck at math, so if I didn’t get a desirable score, would it affect my future application for med school?</p>

<p>This might be a question for an adviser really but I think the major problem it would have would be that it would set you back in your classes. Depending on where you placed you might have to take a few courses that don’t count towards your total credits as well. I wouldn’t stress about it too much though. </p>

<p>Also don’t worry about math that much. There is a place called the Math Learning Center which has open hours where you can take your homework in and get help from math students (mostly TAs).</p>

<p>@brad, I wasn’t in greek life at MSU (just graduated) but like Humanoid says, I’d recommend you to hold off until spring rush (or rush the fall of your sophomore year). Rush really takes up a lot of time and greek life does have quite a few mandatory events that you have to commit yourself to, which might get in the way of getting down the routine of college. And there definitely is no shortage of a social life for non-greek students, with tons of house and apt parties to go to. Plus, if you rush right away, you might miss out on some of the friends you would make otherwise in the dorms etc. because you are generally going to be busy hanging out at the fraternity. As a non-greek, you can still go to most greek events/parties. You can befriend some brothers/go to the greek fall welcome/even rush right away (but you don’t have to choose a house) to get an idea of the scene, and then decide to join in the spring or later to see if you like unaffiliated life or really are still interested in joining greek life. </p>

<p>In terms of the math placement, it really doesn’t matter. Just do well enough on the online placement exam to avoid remedial math (MTH 1875) and you’ll be fine. You also have the option of retaking it I think at your AOP.</p>

<p>Thanks, fa-la-la-lena! I’m really gettin’ a lot of info from this post :)</p>

<p>Surprisingly, I got a 24 out of 28 on the online placement exam and got placed in “MTH 132”. Is this course difficult? Because I find the online exam quite easy but I’m actually pretty bad in function and calculus. It says on the website that I can also enroll in a course that requires a lower placement score, so I’m just wondering which one of these courses is better? “MTH 132”, “MTH 112”, “MTH 124”, “MTH 201”, “STT 200”, or “STT 201”?</p>

<p>I was assigned to the River Trail Neighborhood, but I still don’t know which residence hall I’m going to be living in, so is there anything I need to know before I start living there?</p>

<p>By the way, I’m an International transfer student. I use to play varsity baseball in my university, outfielder. The baseball team in my university is pretty much like Spartan football in MSU. However, I’m pretty sure I’m not qualified for pro in the future so I gave up baseball eventually. Therefore, I would like to try some other sports as leisure like Lacrosse (which can’t be found anywhere in my country) or rugby. Is it possible to join any sports club with no previous experience in that sport?</p>

<p>MTH 132 isn’t horrible you will need to study a bit. I can’t really comment on if you should take the class or not. I would check what classes you need to take. I wouldn’t worry too much about the class. Just be sure to read up on the professors and be sure to use the math learning center for if you get stuck on problems.</p>

<p>I don’t know all the sports you can play here but I do know there is a rugby team. You can join without experience, at least that is what I’ve been lead to believe.</p>

<p>there are tons of sports here- it really depends on what intensity level of play you want to have. IM (intramural) sports are typically for groups of friends or social clubs/greek groups getting together to hang out (any student can participate, way relaxed - some students take IM sports seriously but most are just in it to have fun/keep active, especially as it isn’t a big time commitment). I played IM softball and indoor soccer, but there are quite a few others. </p>

<p>A step up from intramural sports are club sports. Some club sports have tryouts, but many types of club sports (i.e. fencing, skiing, underwater hockey - yes we have some interesting types of sports here) let everyone in. Depending on if there is a varsity level team for the sport or not, some club sports even compete at the varsity level. Most club sports typically take up a lot more time, holding practices several days of the week. And a lot of clubs travel to various events around the midwest to compete. </p>

<p>To check out the clubs when you first get here definitely go to Sparticipation fall welcome event- huge event where almost all of the student clubs are on display.</p>

<p>MTH 132 I heard is all right/not exactly easy, but not impossibly difficult either. MTH 124 is survey of Calculus (aka MTH 132 lite). If you are really unsure of your abilities to do calculus, I’d recommend to take MTH 124 instead. Don’t bother with the others. </p>

<p>As for what to know about River Trail, it has a pretty central location close to almost everything. As a transfer student you are most likely going to be placed in McDonel or Shaw (where most transfer/international students end up).</p>