Question for smokers....

<p>WAHHH, y'all are mean. Actually, I just skimmed over responses to this thread and laughed at how someone hinted at me being a communist. I'm actually very libertarian about 65% of the time. I just posted that link because I thought people should...not just listen to this forum, no offense. I'm sure I've said crap, too.</p>

<p>For instance, Easy, I agree with you about those stats, but I also suspect since a majority of deaths in China are one way or the other pollution-related, that the short life expectancy is related.</p>

<p>(By the way, I'm in Taiwan now, and up till now I've had limited internet access...probably should have explained responses earlier/read what people wrote, not that I'm excusing myself for anything...)</p>

<p>people can smoke american spirit. or roll their own cigarettes so they dont have alll thos chemicals. gg.</p>

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<p>What are you talking about? I said nothing close to what your saying....I said public smoking is disgusting. </p>

<p>Nowhere did I say it should be banned completely or anything relating to the economy. YOU should stop making up posts. CC Hater.</p>

<p>I was giving a superficial answer to an ignorant post/rant.</p>

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1.) Do you hold any consideration for those around you when you smoke in public places(sidewalks, campus walkways, bathrooms) or are you just selfish by nature? Has it ever occurred to you that not everybody feels like polluting their lungs on the way to class? Do you even consider the health effects it may cause you, much less to those around you? I really would like to know....

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<p>what a deusch bag, alipes i don't smoke... but god, I truly hate people like you.</p>

<p>If you don't want to inhale others' smoke, then don't go near them. Simple as that. When you're walking somewhere, you can use your eyes, can't you? Just go around, or something.</p>

<p>If they want to smoke, that's their choice. You can't tell them what is and isn't good for them. This is America, and they're free to make their own decisions, whether those decision will or won't have consequences.</p>

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people can smoke american spirit.

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Unless you get the organic variety it still has chemicals from fertilizers and what not, although this is irrelevant to the point of this thread.</p>

<p>alipes07- you should read this book Breen</a>, T.H.: Tobacco Culture: The Mentality of the Great Tidewater Planters on the Eve of Revolution. America wouldn't exist if it were not for tobacco.</p>

<p>Really though, I hate the holier-than-thou attitudes of many Americans. If you don't like smoke, hold your breath for four seconds as you walk past and stop being so passive aggressive about it.</p>

<p>Why? I shouldnt have to bear the burden of another's disgusting habit in public places. Of course its bad, we already have established that.</p>

<p>Am I being too honest for you burgler?</p>

<p>No, you are rude. I don't like rude people. Until you learn to get your points across without being rude you are never going to be a sucessful person. If you are outside, and there is someone smoking near you, you can simply walk away or not stand right by them. Even if you are right by them, it is not going to give you any sort of lung problems.</p>

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America wouldn't exist if it were not for tobacco.

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<p>America as it is wouldn't exist if not for slavery either. Doesn't mean we should bring slavery back wearin the fo five.</p>

<p>You got me. But lets not equate smoking and slavery.</p>

<p>Yes easy but why did we have slavery? hmmm? tobacco provided lot of the money. tobacco ftw. and burgler youve been rude once or twice so i dont think you should be lecturing</p>

<p>yeaahhh yeahhh :P I'm just rude with people who can't think for themselves.</p>

<p>That tobacco has helped support and shape America's economy doesn't mean that people should continue consuming tobacco products. But, like others have said, it's also very easy to avoid smokers: walk around them. </p>

<p>A study shows that three cigarettes can produce more air pollution than can a diesel car: Smoking</a> Worse Than Exhaust for Air Pollution
Second-hand smoke has obvious adverse health effects, but the damage caused by briefly being exposed to smoke doesn't warrant rudeness. </p>

<p>This issue is a bit more complicated for those with conditions like asthma, though, again, responding rudely won't help anything. On a broader note I do think that we need to cut down on cigarettes and discourage them more, as this would reduce smoking-related health problems and therefore cut down significantly on medical costs.</p>

<p>Like I said, it was an oversimplified statement for a dumb ignorant rant/post.</p>

<p>If your referring to me, how was it oversimplified? It was dumb/rude of me, I'll give you that...</p>

<p>If not, then sorry, and nevermind...</p>

<p>i oversimplified by saying you hate america and the entire world and that the basis of the global economy is due to tobacco.</p>

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On a broader note I do think that we need to cut down on cigarettes and discourage them more, as this would reduce smoking-related health problems and therefore cut down significantly on medical costs.

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what more do we need to do. there are how many campaigns against tobacco? in schools there is a ton of anti smoking being taught. most people i know find it disgusting. however, people still choose to smoke. at some point you either need to make it illegal to smoke in the US or just let people be.</p>

<p>if smoking becomes illegal in the US they would still have to allow people to grow tobacco and make cigarettes to sell in other countries like china.</p>

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if smoking becomes illegal in the US they would still have to allow people to grow tobacco and make cigarettes to sell in other countries like china.

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<p>land of the free</p>

<p>Look at it this way. Smoking related illnesses employes doctors, nurses, hospital janitors, those in the pharm industry, and those who manufacture and sell medical equipment. From an economic perspective, it's not all that bad.</p>

<p>That is totally different than from smoking, not to mention illegal.</p>