***QUESTION*** for UChicago Class of 2012

<p>First of all, let me give my congrats to ALL of you who got accepted...it must feel great to get accepted into such a great university...</p>

<p>I'm currently a sophomore. I will be choosing my next year's courses this month. </p>

<p>I'm just wondering if you guys can tell me a bit about the courses you guys took in your junior/senior year? How many APs did you guys have?</p>

<p>and if you don't mind sharing...what was your SAT/SAT II score? (only if you don't mind)</p>

<p>thanx for your help. =D</p>

<p>You should ask these questions on the ThickEnvelope boards.</p>

<p>He is a sopomore in High School. ThinkEnvelope is for accepted students. I took 6 IB courses and a CC courses my first semester junior year. 7 IB courses second semester. This year I took 4 IB Classes and 3 AP classes first semester and this semester I am taking the same with an added CC class. I scored a 2110 on the SAT and two 710's and a 680 on the SAT II's. I would caution you that this doesn't mean a whole lot. The essay can make up for most SAT scores, even in the 1800's. On the accepted boards kids were saying they got 1800's and got in, while rejected student on here listed their SAT scores at 2300+.</p>

<p>The regular decision results thread should have most of the information you are asking for :)</p>

<p>took half the APs my school offered (4 of 9 + and independent study). 1 in sophomore year, 2 in junior, 2 in senior</p>

<p>I really don't think that your AP scores will have a big impact of any kind on college admissions. They're not even listed as something you need to write down on your college app. What does matter are GPA and scores, although I have to say that for Chicago in particular, these numbers hold less weight than, yes, what is on your mind. Heck, I didn't say anything about AP scores on my app for UC and still got in; I'm sure that there's no statistical advantage here. AP scores deal more with getting credits your freshman year AFTER getting admissions to w/e college you go to.</p>

<p>BUT, since you are choosing which classes to take, I suggest that you ought to take the most rigorous--whether you plan on taking the AP exams in May or not. It is nearly a prerequisite for you to take the most rigorous courses your school offers if you want to succeed in applying to ultraselective colleges, consistently for 4 years. Not to mention, it's just a good educational investment as well.</p>

<p>AP tests I've done: I did all the ones I could, which were essentially AP US History, World History, Lang/Comp; I'm also doing Psych, Governmt/Politics: US, and Calc BC.</p>

<p>Scores: didn't take SAT IIs. Got a 35 on the ACT, had a 3.7 Unweighted GPA/4.14 weighted GPA. </p>

<p>While my grades were below the UC average, I made up for it with a plethora of debate/speech awards and leadership activities (which, as I've realized, is a lacking quality in UC students, so I guess it was a "hook"; oh and my essay was aweeesommmmmeee!! :D).</p>

<p>Sophomore year I took AP US History
Junior Year I took AP Stats, AP Calc BC, AP English Lang, AP Bio, AP Chem
Senior Year I took AP English Lit, AP Physics C</p>

<p>Scores:
SAT- 2160
ACT- 34
SAT IIs- Math II 800, Bio E 760, Chem 800, Physics 760
APs- Bio, Chem, Calc, Stats-5 English Lang, USH-3
3.98/4.0 Unweighted or 4.77/5.0 weighted</p>

<p>Junior Year Courses:
AP United States History
AP Chemistry
AP Physics C
AP Calculus BC
Latin III
Englsih 11</p>

<p>Senior Yr. 1st Semester (at a local state school):
ENG 102H English II Honors (just a writing class)
PSC 111 American Government
MTH 281 Multivariable Calc.
MTH 286 Intro. to Diff. Eqns.
MTH 288 Linear Algebra
AP Stats (auditing)</p>

<p>Senior Yr. Second semester:
ENG 315 Intro. to the Eng. Lang (its a linguistics course)
MTH 311 Numerical Analysis
MTH 358 Abstract Algebra
MTH 381 Analysis
MTH 424 Probability Theory
PHY 350 Electrictiy and Magneitsm (auditing)
AP Statistics (still auditing)</p>

<p>my best advice would be to take the hardest you can take, but dont just take it cuz its hard and will look good. Take it because you love it. Notice, I did NOT take Honors english because I didn't want to. I didnt take in freshman or sophomore year either, and the only reason I wound up taking an honors enlgihs course my senior year was becuase it fit into my schedule perfectly. Take what you want first. Take what looks good second. It may not get you in, but at least youll have had fun.</p>

<p>congrats to all of you, my s applied and was rejected with similiar stats 3.8 un, 4.4 w act 31 stat 2 700 math 680 english independent study in english awesome essays and great recs oh well life goes on</p>

<p>oh ya and just about all the ap classes and accelerated one's he could take good luck to all of you</p>

<p>sheilagh, so sorry to hear your story. This was just a really rough year all around.</p>

<p>Don't worry about SATs and GPA: that stuff is more of a formality for Chicago, and they really don't care. However, when I say GPA I don't mean your transcript, as that is very important. What I mean to say is that Chicago wants to see that you're a well-rounded intellectual, that you challenge yourself with everything your school offers and, for some of us, even more than your school offers. This obviously will depend on your school and location. There are three main things that matter to get into Chicago: essays, letters of recommendation, and your transcript. Achievements and extracurriculars come next. Numbers, as Chicago says many, many times, even in the letter of acceptance, don't really matter here. They want to know how you think, who you are as a person, how you express yourself as a person--the qualities of your character, not the silly quantities of GPA and SAT scores; this approach is what makes Chicago so special and able to attract and admit such a special, unrivaled in qualification group of students (even moreso than, in my opinion, Harvard, depending on what's important to you in a student body), and it's important to realize that, I believe, if you want to go here.</p>

<p>Anyway, here are my stats for kicks:
800V/700M/680W (I took it once and never again as I despise standardized testing and knew selective colleges don't actually care about SAT as long as you make a certain range--especially Chicago)
800 Spanish / 710 Math II / 700 Chemistry</p>

<p>AP Psych freshman year
AP music theory, AP Spanish sophomore year
AP calc AB independent study, AP chemistry, AP English language junior year
AP English lit, AP US gov't, AP microecon, AP macroecon, independent study AP physics C: mechanics, independent study AP physics C: e&M.
(I've passed all the tests I've taken so far, but Chicago doesn't know that. Also, to a large extent these are all the APs my school offers save for AP bio and AP American history, and the very small number of students taking APs would make it impossible to take them all.)</p>

<p>Band captain, trumpet section leader, lead trumpet, soloist, basically lots of music. I mentioned that as a hobby I like to compose music, but I sent in no samples. President of mu alpha theta math team, member for 4 years of academic team (3 years varsity). I have tutored students of all ages.</p>

<p>My letters of recommendation were fantastic, and I sent in an optional one from my music teacher as I've taken 7 courses with him, plus all the outside-of-school time I spend with him.</p>

<p>It's also worth mentioning that I go to a not-very-good school (66% collegebound, I believe) and I come from an underprivileged background: my parents came here from Cuba about a year before I was born and both have only high school degrees.</p>

<p>I believe my essays were some of the best I've ever written. I made them extremely personal and talked about things as close to my heart as I could, because I knew that's what they wanted: they want to know who you are. I talked about video games and music, pretty much. And they obviously liked this: I received the competitive College Honors Scholarship, awarded to 20 applicants, so I definitely believe with Chicago--and any other competitive school, for that matter--you really just need to be as real and as personal as you can be. This isn't an academic paper: this is who you are. Passive voice and linking verbs are fine :)</p>

<p>Then again, I wrote about my insane and incredibly difficult experiences for the past two years and related that to why I felt so strongly that Chicago could be my home (that was part of my Why Chicago essay) and then I wrote about the table essay and took snippets of real conversations that I've had with my friends and family, so I felt that those essays were extremely personal, but all it got me was deferred and then rejected. Just goes to show that what they are looking for is completely random. Perhaps my application came up after reading someone's essay about how they were abused as a child and my hardships seemed superficial. </p>

<p><em>Sigh</em> Back to lurking the boards, watching all the accepted people talk about dorms and fin aid...</p>