questioning the head of the engineering department??

Colleges and Universities A-Z Tulane University
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<p>FallenChemist: here is something for you to analyze:</p>

<p>You said this: Anyway, my point to Okla was that first of all you never asked for a critique of your choice of major, so she was really off track with that. Second was that no one should judge a student’s capabilities when they know so little about that student. </p>

<p>AND you said this too: Just to repeat myself, the DHS requires an SAT score at least 300 points higher than what you currently have, and they actually recommend a score of 2250 or higher. So I think that is out of your reach. </p>

<p>I would say this: The first part you have said that Second was that no one should judge a student’s capabilities when they know so little about that student. </p>

<p>But you have judged her by saying So I think is out of reach for her to get SAT score of 2250…</p>

<p>Are you judging her in here?..well, IF I say something does not mean that I am judging her, etc…AND if you give a verdict “that is out of reach for her” then it is not judging…OK I got it, judging and verdict are two different things. Life is good.</p>

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<p>BMEPREMEDgirl: I am not judging you, PERIOD. I am just presenting the facts however it comes across Too Strong then I am so sorry. Anyhow, BME is hard and I am not kidding. MY S is an honor student majoring in BME at Tulane Univ. his GPA is high and told me that there are 2 or 3 of his classmates from previous semester have dropped out and/or changed their major. Also, I have a friend whose has graduated in BME from Vandy (Vanderbilt Univ- one of the finest/top schools with Phd and now is pursuing a medical school in Kansas. Both of them have said: BME is hard labor major. </p>

<p>Also, you can find info about how hard BME is from College Confidential. What makes BME hard is because it is a combo of Engineering and pure sciences.</p>

<p>Then again, when I say hard that is just the fact AND does not mean you can not do it, etc…to some people, being hard eventually will push them to excel and have the motivation to do it…but for others, hard is hard and they give up. BOTH of them are not wrong. </p>

<p>What IF I would say majoring in BME is super-duper easy as walking in park?..would you buy that?..IF you look at the classes, curriculum, etc., they will speak for themselves as to why BME is hard labor major.</p>

<p>What IF I would say BME is easy and it is the easiest major in any universities AND lots of students have done it and passed with flying colors…Do you like that statement and not feeling offended?</p>

<p>What IF I would say BME only requires SAT scores of Math 550 and Reading 550 (1,100), do you like it?..</p>

<p>On the other hand, I am giving you hard facts about BME (and not sugarcoating it) and they are only facts and those dont mean that I am putting you down, etc. But, IF it hurts your feeling, once again I say: my apology.</p>

<p>for FallenChemist: you may ask any BME students and find out what their SAT scores in HS and see what grades they have in college…and ask them if they have worked super-duper hard in order to get a degree in BME…you will be surprised.</p>

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<p>These posts are unhelpful. They are abrasive and off-putting, rather than contributing to the discussion.</p>

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<p>what is considered not off putting?..All I am saying is that BME is tough and hard labor major…and FallenChemist is saying: that is out of reach for her (to get SAT score 2250). </p>

<p>OK I got it for the next post or discussion, I will just say good stuff, sugarcoating it etc…OR, perhaps just delete all of my posts…and I dont care at all since they dont contribute to anyone and you certainly dont like any of them anyway.</p>

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I never said anything like that, and I am offended by such a horrible misquote. That and other statements you are attributing to me and others were never said, or even implied. Please stop.</p>

<p>I didn’t say she was incapable of scoring a 2250. I said with her current score of 1910 winning the DHS would be virtually impossible. Those are two very different things. And that is not judging, that is just informing her of both what Tulane itself says about the criteria for the DHS as well as 5+ years of experience working with students on things like this.</p>

<p>BME is hard, one of the hardest majors there is. No one said otherwise. I would also never say that there is probably not a general correlation between high school performance and college performance, but there are enough exceptions to drive a truck through. Or more to the point, to not tell any individual they shouldn’t do something based on their high school record alone, especially when in this case the high school record was just fine. 700 on the math SAT and a 3.8 UW GPA is a strong record, so your point is invalid for this student anyway.</p>

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<p>Please stop the bickering. Its derailing the thread.</p>

<p>Bottom line, the OP should do her due diligence, research the schools, majors, COA and get her personal feel for college life by visiting, if possible. Another excellent resource is the Yale Daily New’s Iniders guide to colleges. Its gives an excellent sense of college life fromt eh students perspective. [The</a> Insider’s Guide to the Colleges,2013: Students on Campus Tell You What You Really Want to Know,39th Edition: Yale Daily News Staff: 9780312672966: Amazon.com: Books](<a href=“http://www.amazon.com/The-Insiders-Guide-Colleges-2013/dp/0312672969]The”>http://www.amazon.com/The-Insiders-Guide-Colleges-2013/dp/0312672969)</p>

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<p>Sorry jym, but I won’t stand for being that badly misquoted.</p>

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<p>Understood. But if bickering continues the thread could be closed. Maybe that isn’t a bad thing.</p>

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<p>Dear OP --</p>

<p>A little research on your part would really go a long way. Here’s a head start.</p>

<p>You say you are looking for (i) an engineering program in a school that’s not totally an engineering school, (ii) that gives out good merit aid. My kid was in a similar situation – was interested in engineering but not sure if that major would stick, and so wanted to be in a school that was otherwise a good liberal arts school. Makes sense, since most college kids change their majors while in school. Engineering, in particular, has a pretty high drop out rate among college majors.</p>

<p>US News has a good list of engineering programs at schools where the highest degree is only a bach or masters rather than doctorate. That’s a good list for you, since that identifies somewhat more liberal artsy type schools that also have engineering.</p>

<p>Next, look up schools that give out good merit aid. NY Times has a good database on this. So does Kiplinger’s best college values. To get merit aid, you need to focus on schools where you would be at least average on admission stats, hopefully above average. From that you will get a good list of schools to consider.</p>

<p>Tulane would be one school, which is where my kid ended up. Others I could see would be Gonzaga, Denver, Santa Clara, San Diego, Loyola Marymount, Miami, Miami/Ohio, SLU, Marquette (especially for BME), Creighton, Manhattan. Not sure why, but a lot of the Jesuit/Catholic colleges seem to fit your parameters. There’s also schools like Bucknell, Lafayette, Villanova, Swarthmore but those might be harder to get into and probably don’t do much merit aid.</p>

<p>And if you fall back to an engineering oriented school like CWR, note that RPI and WPI hand out a lot of merit aid.</p>

<p>Good luck.</p>

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<p>FallenChemist: This your original posting #36: Just to repeat myself, the DHS requires an SAT score at least 300 points higher than what you currently have, and they actually recommend a score of 2250 or higher. So I think that is out of your reach.</p>

<p>Take it easy…and I have proved my case that you have given either a verdict and/or judging her. I rest my case…oh: how do you know that she will not be able to score 2250? just wondering though…NOW the ball is in your court.</p>

<p>PS: go back again and read the posting #36 by you. I did not say in #36, nobody did it but you.</p>

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<p>Now, no sugar-coating it: BMEPREMEDgirl said this: I was WAITLISTED by Tulane last year, and after discussing with a few ppl about re applying, I kinda want to give it a shot.</p>

<p>My question is: IF she will apply again, will she be fully acccepted this time after being hiatus for one year?</p>

<p>I would say: give it a try, what do you have to lose?..BUT, if you will be accepted and not getting enough money (scholarship+grants+merit aids, etc) Then what is your next steps?..</p>

<p>of course in order to be accepted you perhaps have to write essay again, complete the necessary paper-work…and boost your SAT scores.</p>

<p>What have you done in order to achieve higher SAT scores?..now that is the million dollar question. AND no sugar-coating it from me.</p>

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<p>Good Lord, Okla. The topic in that post was the DHS, so I was saying the DHS was out of her reach with her SAT score of 1910. That is very plain. While improving an SAT score 300+ points from one sitting to another is very rare, I would never tell someone it cannot be done.</p>

<p>Please read more carefully next time.</p>