<p>Obviously, the ■■■■■ on this thread is the one who can not answer these questions (I only list two here) with any facts but continue to use ‘pretender’ in posts to fabrizio. ■■■■■!</p>
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<p>Then, from me to sosomenza one on one,</p>
<p>“Memorizing SAT questions with matching answers is pretending to be smart.”</p>
<p>How many SAT questions (and matching answers) are there for all the past 20 years of Reading, Math, and Writing tests to be memorized? </p>
<p>Please ANSWER it with numbers! (don’t just display your sour grapes mentality and hates.)</p>
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<p>“ How many pretenders have taken the top spots away from real students?”</p>
<p>Top schools also require SATII tests. Can anyone get high scores by memorizing all past 20 years of old test questions and matching answers on SAT Reading, MATH, Writing, SATII MATH, CHEMISTRY/PHYSIC/BIOLOGY? </p>
<h2> If yes, PROVE IT! (don’t just continue to spew your hate!)</h2>
<p>You’re writing skills are so bad that I have no idea about what you are asking! If you want to be taken seriously then ask in a clear and concise manner. If the question refers to one of my posts then quote my post and then ask the question. WARNING if your writing is not clear, I will not waste time tying to decipher it.</p>
<p>@soso,
If u want to be taken seriously when u deride someone for his/her writing skills, u should observe that 2nd-person-possessive is “your”, not “you’re”</p>
<p>Gee thanks, your contribution to the discussion, no matter how small or insignificant, is appreciated. Now get off you thumbs and help FMI get his thoughts together. I’ll try to find someone to help you with sentence punctuation. Maybe the three of you will be able to get something done. I won’t hold my breath.</p>
<p>GMT has a good point. More than once, you’ve criticized others for their writing. So criticism of writing is OK when you engage in it, but insignificant when others do it?</p>
<p>Schuette should be 8-0. The idea that racial preferences are Constitutionally permissible has always been barely acceptable; Bakke and Grutter were both 5-4 decisions. Given that to be case, how on Earth does it follow that racial preferences are mandatory?</p>
<p>Don’t try to spin and avoid answering. lol </p>
<p>I am okay with you criticizing my writing, as I said it is my second language. Actually, third. I know you fully understand my questions. You were just too afraid to answer them because you have no evidences to back them up. We all understand this.</p>
<p>So, I can re-phrase my questions in a simple way that even a first grader can understand.</p>
<p>Let me try again then, from me to sosomenza one on one:</p>
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You said “Memorizing SAT questions with matching answers is pretending to be smart.”</p>
<p>I ask you: How many old SAT questions are there in the past 20 years on Reading, Math, and Writing tests? </p>
<p>Please ANSWER it with numbers.</p>
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From you: “ How many pretenders have taken the top spots away from real students?”</p>
<p>Consider that top schools also require SATII tests, I ask: How many test takers got high scores by memorizing all past 20 years of old test questions and matching answers on all subjects including SAT Reading, MATH, Writing, SATII MATH, and CHEMISTRY/PHYSICS/BIOLOGY? </p>
<p>Please give me numbers! (It will be the best to give me numbers by subjects)</p>
<p>I have been asking nicely. I doubt you cannot understand the questions this time.</p>
<p>Pfft! Let’s not be patronizing, mokusatsu, especially since I highly doubt you yourself have read the Opinion and the dissents.</p>
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<p>The 8-7 ruling claimed that Proposal 2 was un-Constitutional. Proposal 2 was a ballot initiative seeking to in general ban the use of racial classification by the state of Michigan. So the majority is claiming that racial preferences are mandatory; you cannot prohibit them.</p>
<p>Since the Sixth Circuit ruled, 8 to 7, that the answer is “yes,” the Sixth Circuit is claiming that prohibiting racial preferences is un-Constitutional; that is, racial preferences are mandatory.</p>
<p>Yes, I said it, and I stick by it. Goosing up a SAT score is pretending to be smart. In some cases its egregious as was the case with the Country of Korea, leaking the May exam early, resulting in the whole exam being canceled. In other cases, its some students getting a hold of as many old SAT tests as possible, matching questions to answers, likely hoping for a few recycled questions. For evidence of this, I offer this the C.C. website. There is no shortage of kids trying to get SAT tests, discussing old tests and begging for correct answers for in-hand tests. IS THAT ENOUGH PROOF FOR YOU. </p>
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<p>Its illogical to ask someone who does not have access to the SAT database to answer this question. How many questions are in service? How many have been retired due to statistical unreliability? How many have been created or will be created? You ask a question that an outsider obviously cannot answer. Why? for a smoke screen, obviously! You’re simply trying to save face? But to end my point, I do suspect the current data base is very large, but not large enough to prevent a diligent student, who starts early enough, to master a good number of the questions as a pretender.</p>
<p>STOP THE SMOKE SCREEN. DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT A RIDICULOUS QUESTION IT IS. Do you understand that to formulate such a stat projection that it would take a poling army and a squad of statisticians to calculate it? But regardless, the number does exist and in my opinion it is high. </p>
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<p>AGAIN STOP THE SMOKE SCREEN (see above). BTW, I’ve never posted an opinion on SAT2 or claimed an opinion as to cheating/pretending, but if there’s cheating on the SAT, then it’s logical to conclude that there’s cheating/pretending on the SAT2. BTW welcome to Fab’s pain. There’s a lot more where it came from.</p>
<p>Scotusblog just copied that from the petition. No surprise that the petitioner phrases the issue to slant it his way. But eight votes in CA6 are the tip-off that the case is not that simple. The case turns on application of the Hunter-Seattle political process doctrine the rule that an enactment deprives minority groups of the equal protection of the laws when it: (1) has a racial focus, targeting a policy or program that inures primarily to the benefit of the minority; and (2) reallocates political power or reorders the decisionmaking process in a way that places special burdens on a minority group’s ability to achieve its goals through that process. 701 F.3d at 477.</p>
<p>Where’s the slant? The Sixth Circuit held that it was impermissible to ban racial preferences. How, then, does it not follow that they held that racial preferences are mandatory? You can’t not have them.</p>
<p>Fabrizio, are you familiar with Sander and Taylor’s book called, Mismatch : How Affirmative Action Hurts Students Its Intended to Help, and Why Universities Wont Admit It? </p>
<p>The MisMatch hypothesis and data supporting it seems contradict your assertion that, “T2/T3 state schools have no incentive whatsoever to practice racial preferences because there are so many blacks and Hispanics who meet their requirements”.</p>
<p>Their hypothesis asserts that affirmative action harms its beneficiaries by placing them in settings where they cannot compete academically and so learn less and perform less well than they would in less selective institutions. </p>
<p>With elite schools sweeping up most of the minority applicants with scores about 1200 or 1300, this means that the schools with an average SAT of, say, 1300, need to dip farther into a small applicant pool in order to get a class that has a substantial number of underrepresented minorities. In other words, they need to use a bigger preference than the very elite schools. And then the schools ranked below them are dipping even farther into the pool, using an even bigger preference. The unexpected result is that the less selective the school, the bigger the racial preferences, and the larger the mismatch. Minority students at Harvard or Stanford, or an elite state school like UVA or Michigan, are very close to their fellow students in preparation. Minority students at a second or third tier school are dealing with much bigger gaps.(As predicted by SAT scores)</p>
<p>I am indeed familiar with the mismatch hypothesis, but it is consistent with my assertion. If you plot the black enrollment in percentage against the average SAT score for the 2005 edition of Princeton Review’s 357 best colleges, you get a U-shaped curve regardless of geographic region, with the curve minimum between 1200 and 1300/1600. The schools with an average SAT of 1000/1600 tended to have more black students (as a percentage of all students) than the schools with an average SAT of 1200/1600.</p>
I know you fully understand my questions. You were just too afraid to answer them because you have no evidences to back them up. We all understand this.</p>