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Is a derogatory term ok because it’s catchy? Is it “white-'splaining” to defend the use of the term white-'splaining?</p>
<p>Some might find this interesting. I admit I recognized myself (painful) in some of these. It’s “derailment bingo,” otherwise known as how people can try to explain away acts of discrimination. [Derailment</a> Bingo - mlkshk](<a href=“http://mlkshk.com/p/9FOI]Derailment”>Derailment Bingo | MLTSHP)</p>
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<p>Based on the description we have had the university in question 80% of the students are your little darlings from the Northeast. So look to the mote in your own eye. </p>
<p>And UC Berekeley just voted to engage in another round of Thought Crime so I dont want to hear how “Open Minded” they are. Open Minded to people who agree with you isnt open minded at all.</p>
<p>I am deeply sorry if my example term of Hindusplaining was racist. It really wasn’t intended to be. I just picked the name of a dominant ethno-cultural group in a country and tagged it on to ‘splaining’. Sorry for any offence.</p>
<p>What I had in mind would be some BJP leader informing members of other groups that they misunderstand the situation and are not really discriminated against, or something.</p>
<p>Don’t take it to heart, it is not a big deal!</p>
<p>When I first arrived in this country, 40 years ago, kids used to throw rocks at us when we went out to play. It was in the midwest. When we moved to NJ I was so happy not be called chink any more that segregation didn’t bother me. My skin did grow pretty thick, but with some lasting scars. </p>
<p>I can make fun of white people now. When people ask me if I remember so and so I met at our last meeting, I would say, “No, all you white people look the same to me.” People would pause then laugh once they got my joke.</p>
<p>I don’t see this as a White issue because I know Asians are just as discriminatory toward non-Asians. Names they use on white people are not mentionable here. This all has to do with how educated and sophisticated people are. If a white person is a world traveler, he/she would know not all Asians are alike (not all are good in math, eat with bowl to their face*, straight A student, own dry cleaner or restaurant…). If an Asian has traveled to Europe/American, he/she would know not all white people smell, don’t like their kids, have no respect for elders, or are barbarians. </p>
<p>OP’s kid has a more difficult path than most people. She looks Chinese, but she has no affinity to China. Her upbringing is very main stream American, but she doesn’t look like them. This is something for her to come to terms with. My kids are biracial, and they’ve had their own challenges. We’ve been to Chinese restaurants where waiters told us that it was wrong for to have biracial children (that comment did cost her tip that night). My kids have been told that they should know how to speak Chinese. D2 would pipe up to say, “But I speak Spanish really well.”</p>
<p>I think there are campus with more diversity, but there will always be ignorant people.</p>
<p>*My parents never allowed us to shovel rice from a bowl to our mouth, we were taught to use chopsticks to get rice to our mouth one mouthful at a time (imagine using a spoon) , no different than well brought up white people are taught not to use a fork like a pitch fork.</p>
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<p>Do these remarks pertain only to immigrants “of color,” or are “white” immigrants allowed to play, too?</p>
<p>Oldfort, excellent post #211.</p>
<p>Good post oldfort. </p>
<p>There is ignorant racism and there is malicious racism. Throwing rocks - definitely malicious.</p>
<p>"don’t see this as a White issue because I know Asians are just as discriminatory toward non-Asians. Names they use on white people are not mentionable here. "</p>
<p>Oldfort, are there terms towards white problem that (if we knew what they were) are as offensive as the N word is?</p>
<p>Like gaijin? 
(or shikse or shegetz…)</p>
<p>Probably more than you ever wanted to know about that word:
[Gaijin</a> - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaijin]Gaijin”>Gaijin - Wikipedia)</p>
<p>Yes, I think so. It doesn’t make it right, but I was trying to point out that there are just mean and ignorant people out there and it is not exclusive to any particular race. I think as we become more global and through better education, people may become more tolerant toward different culture and race. Meanwhile, what we can do is to choose who we want to socialize/associate with. This sounds cliche…we can’t control other people’s behavior, but we can control our reaction and how it affects us.</p>
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<p>Some of the underlying resentments/attitudes in the use of that word could be traced back to the circumstances behind Japan being “opened more widely to the world” in 1853. </p>
<p>It was effectively done at gunpoint when Commodore Perry arrived in Edo Bay with his warships. While the then ruling Tokugawa Shogun and his Bakufu government could have theoretically refused to fully open up Japan to trade/relations with European/American powers*, they didn’t really have much choice considering it was 19th century American warships armed with then modern cannon vs samurai armed mostly with bladed weapons and some older antiquated firearms from before the early 17th century. </p>
<p>In fact, one key factor in the rise of the anti-Tokugawa rebellions in the 1860’s which eventually toppled the Tokugawa shogunate and ushered in the Meiji Restoration was the strong anti-foreigner sentiment among those involved. Especially perceptions among them that the Tokugawa “weren’t doing enough to expel the foreigners”…especially considering that was one of the Shogun’s stated key duties.</p>
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<li>When Japan entered its isolationist period after 1633, they did allow the Dutch to conduct limited trade on the condition the trade is conducted on an isolated island off the main Japanese islands outside of Nagasaki. Limited trade was also allowed with other Asian societies as well in other isolated trading areas.</li>
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<p>My DH grew up in Asia. He and his family were frequently referred to as “round eyes”. It was not meant to be a term of endearment, to say the least :rolleyes:</p>
<p>** I think the word was “hauolis” or something like that, that translated to “round eyes”. Can anyone clarify the word or spell it correctly (“hauolis”) as this is a guess at the spelling.</p>
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If you really want to live were thee are no racists, then perhaps colonizing the moon might be in order. There are racists and ignorant people everywhere, whether you are familiar with them or not.</p>
<p>And you claim not to want to be around racists, and then mock “rednecks”? Really? Do you not see anything hypocritical in that? Mocking a stereotype with ignorant, derogatory generalizations is just as bad.</p>
<p>Everyone’s a little bit racist.</p>
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<p>Anyone know how to set a youtube link?</p>
<p>Is it right to stereotype whites or southerners? Of course not. But it isn’t remotely the equivalent of racism, at least not in the US. Context matters - absent a history of discrimination and/or a power dynamic that still favors the group using the slur, “cracker” and “shiksa” are not nearly as pernicious as the n- word or “k*ke.” Two wrongs don’t make a right - but that doesn’t mean the two wrongs are of equal weight, either. </p>
<p>Anti-white sentiment in predominantly Asian countries is an exception, but the OP isn’t talking about race in China or Japan; she’s talking about something going on right here, so I’m not sure why the fact that other countries may also be bigoted/less than sensitive to ethnic difference is relevant.</p>
<p>Oh, so its better to just be a bigot, not a racist. I see…</p>
<p>And now we have a rating scale on the “degree” of bigotry or offensiveness? Really?</p>
<p>apprenticeprof…absurd at best…that might sound like good spin in a sociology class but in the real world not ok, cool or acceptable.</p>
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<p>Sounds like the word “Haole” which actually originates from the Hawaiian language. Among some native Hawaiians, there’s still strong resentments from the mostly American local financial elite backed coup of 1893 which overthrew the last monarch of Hawaii and eventually caused Hawaii to become an American territory and state. </p>
<p>Despite the apology resolution for that coup by the US government in 1993: [Apology</a> Resolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apology_Resolution]Apology”>Apology Resolution - Wikipedia), </p>
<p>movements advocating Hawaiian independence from the US and their sympathizers and those against it have continued to protest and publicly advocate their respective positions.</p>
<p>Got to see news and live protests about those issues while in Hawaii to visit relatives.</p>