<p>Why the hyperbole, cobrat? Why is it “the blatant level and severity of the incidents” and was anti-asian racism, bullying, bigotry and prejudice when it was directed at ORMs, but just a “historical, geographical and power dynamic” or “urban legend started by a tiny group of disgruntled White Hawaiians” when it is the other way around? The way you present it sounds unbalanced and biased.</p>
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<p>There are certain areas where racism is more prevalent than others and could also vary depending on the minority concerned.</p>
<p>It’s one reason why the Black/White dichotomy in promoting diversity and discussion of racism issues in some colleges fails to adequately cover problems faced by other minority groups. </p>
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<p>It may seem unbalanced to you, but the factor of Hawaii’s colonization and its political, economic, and public life being ruled by an elite dominated by the local White elite until 40 or so years ago does seem to be factors in native-Hawaiian resentment:</p>
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<p>I think the incident the OP witnessed in the dining hall sounds incredibly childish. My S is a freshman at a large state U home for a 3 day weekend. I just showed him the post. He cannot imagine something like that taking place. We both agreed it sounds like a scene out of a high school. The atmosphere just sounds awful at your Ds school.</p>
<p>Doesn’t matter WHY there is resentment. The fact is they are being targeted. People can rationalize all they want WHY they are biased against a population. But bigots are bigots.</p>
<p>And more/less racism depending on the minority? Say what?Thats another of those vagues statements presented as fact when it is opinion.</p>
<p>I am not saying there is no racism where he attends…not at all. But mocking someone for the way they eat just seems oddly juvenile on a college campus. My kid goes there to eat and leaves.</p>
<p>Oh, jym. Everybody tends to inflate and deflate- sometimes feels like the wrong moments, eh? Someone says she’s uncomfortable with adoption, someone says it’s her own issue with her appearance, another implies it’s constant and ongoing, threatening. Someone hints she needs to affiliate with more Chinese-born kids another says she’s thin-skinned. And then others get distracted. </p>
<p>All along, OP describes a nice kid, good student, usually able to roll in all sorts of situations. A gal not raised in isolation, not blind to what goes on. But not happy with what she has found at this school, so far.</p>
<p>I’m not usually in favor of kids just up-and-running. But if it turns out things don’t get better and leaving is what D and her family feel is right for her, then bless her for looking for something better. For her.</p>
<p>And really, Hawaii? Rude drivers and cashiers? How someone eats rice?</p>
<p>For the record, my D1 decided not to apply to a grand southern school because, though she adored it as much as I always have, she realized her own cultural fit was better “up north.” That she is very much a Yankee and some of the small things she saw, when we visited, would likely grow more bothersome to her, over time.</p>
<p>That sort of decision isn’t running from something; it’s not being blind to that facts that racism can crop up anywhere. It was a positive choice. Why can’t OP’s girl be allowed the same? Why this mountain being built?</p>
<p>Yes, looking forward. Some inflate and deflate based on their own unique perceptions. Thats for sure.</p>
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<p>Well there’s your problem. </p>
<p>Its a small leap from smugly self superior about your openmindedness to wallowing in your general Superiority. </p>
<p>If OP’s D was at a college with a bunch of hayseeds maybe they wouldnt have such a sense of superiority over other people. A college with swaggering with their “unprecedented commitment to diversity and global engagement” and peopled with privilege Northeasterns is a petri dish for breeding a sense of superiority. </p>
<p>Where does Hopper Penn come up with these racist slurs? raised by a leftist Hollywood actor and attending an exclusive Malibu highschool? Why does leftist actor and Stanford grad Ted Danson think its ok forhim to parade around in black face and use the n word?</p>
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<p>That bit started with jym626’s post #219 quoted here:</p>
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<p>I’m still wondering which “Asian” nation she’s referring to considering the term “Haole” is Hawaiian in origin and last I checked, Hawaii isn’t part of nor anywhere near the Asian continent.</p>
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<p>Did any of you participate in this protest?</p>
<p>Hayseeds? Adding ANOTHER stereotype? </p>
<p>Its a small leap from smugly self superior about your openmindedness to wallowing in your general Superiority. Or jumping from your superior observation and analytical skills to knocking and mocking. Think about it.</p>
<p>If you read my other posts, cobrat, you would see that I mentioned that many ( as in a lot) of his friends and classmates were Hawaiian. He grew up on a military base, where many of the Hawaiians were civilians working for the military, so they stayed longer. Not that it’s really any of your business. You can stop with the questioning and doubting now, thank you.</p>
<p>Know where it started, cobrat. Read the all the posts. Not going back, but the context, more or less, sooner or later, was someone’s curiosity about how whites are slammed, what it compares to. Doesn’t matter to me exactly who started it. But, yeah, does bug me that this thread, like all that touch on racism, has so enormously arced. </p>
<p>I don’t need all the background detail, proofs or suppositions from history. Every time I read this thread and others like it, I am amazed at some folks’ willingness to stereotype others, in an effort to prove racism (and other stereotyping/put downs) doesn’t exist. How easily we all think our perspective is what others should adopt. When the subject is racism, intended or out of unawareness, my focus is on the present. How each of us falls into the danged trap. </p>
<p>But, I am still on this thread, hoping for the comments that make sense. To me.</p>
<p>Oh lookingforward, it would be so lovely if something here made sense! I gave an example way back of the term that my DH said was used as a derogatory one. And yes he grew up in Asia. I am beginning to feel like I am next going to be expected to produce his birth certificate. Lord help us if the birthers show up in this thread!</p>
<p>Feel free to apologize for that snarky crack in post 294, cobrat. You are wrong, an insolent.</p>
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<p>I’m not the one who made the link between your H growing up in Asia and linking it to the pejorative term “hauolis” as clearly illustrated from my quote of your own post. You did. </p>
<p>Hence, your call for an apology is without merit. :)</p>
<p>Yes, because he grew up in ASIA and it was a term used there by classmates. Yes, they happened to be Hawaiian. It’s time I put you on ignore. Let others put up with your incessant dribble.</p>
<p>Cobrat play the “hmm, could I have misinterpreted?” exercise. Just for fun. She thought the term was haole. The end.</p>
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<p>Funny, you took offense to the term redneck but then turned around and used slang yourself. Which way is it with you argbargy? I have a feeling you don’t really care about promoting understanding…just arguing for augments sake.</p>
<p>Jym…can you drop the feud with Cobrat? You’ll NEVER agree with him…yet you keep walking into his traps…you let him " get your goat" (I sure hope this isn’t some racist term used against a particular group). Why do you (and others) assume he doesn’t know what he is doing? Maybe feeling a little “superior” yourself?</p>