<p>lol...sorry then, I thought you were serious!!</p>
<p>live- brings up a point about how black people really aren't the only ones that can act and dress ghetto, but that doesn't even mean that all black people do. The racism comes from how these parties accentuate stereotypes; I'm sure that many Mexican people don't wear sombreros and have characteristic mustaches just like some black people don't always act and dress ghetto. Jimi Hendrix is a perfect example of that, and how about the black singer from Attaxe, the Cleveland heavy metal band. The way that these parties highlight the stereotypes is really the problem, and that's where the racism comes from.</p>
<p>tux, I bring you Princeton University Wordnet's definition of racism:</p>
<p>"
noun
1. the prejudice that members of one race are intrinsically superior to members of other races
2. discriminatory or abusive behavior towards members of another race "</p>
<p>If you could point out the part concerning "highlighting stereotypes," I'd appreciate it.</p>
<p>And no **** not all black people dress or act "ghetto." That's why the parties weren't called "BLACK PEOPLE THEME," but "Ghetto" theme. Which, as you just said, should infer nothing about race. Unless, of course, the 25 black students disrupting the peace on Ho Plaza on Monday decide that being "Ghetto" is part of black culture, which you just claimed is false. As such, the protesters were wrong (and by your own logic).</p>
<p>it's funny that u can find such ignorant ppl in a top university like cornell. With all the education that u have all of u can't see that these parties reinforce stereotypes about other ethnicities just like the American whites that would dress up in black face in the past. I think what you need is to be a minority in amongst people who generally don't like you. And I mean a physically apparent minority for all the Jewish people out there.then u all can see how it feels to be on the other end of the joke.</p>
<p>and you hardly ever find black people at these parties, as most of us do not need alcohol to have fun and find these parties lame</p>
<p>See the thing is noone did "paint their face black". I bet I could have gone with my black friends to a party like this and had a great time or gone with white friends and also had a great time. It was "ghetto" themed, not "black" themed. I DO see ur point bunni. I think we all do. But I don't think you see ours. It's like if there was a "Country" party and people dressed up like cowboys...including <em>shock</em> minorities. Would they be racist towards white people? NO. Thank you...</p>
<p>edit: I think you need to understand the power of the word "racist". You do not just go around calling people racist willy nilly. It is very insulting and that is probably why the kid who said he was at the party on this thread is being so defensive. It is a VERY insulting accusation pointed towards him.</p>
<p>then maybe he needs to do some soul-searching and discover his true intentions for attending that party. And what the hell is "ghetto" last time that is not an adjective, but a noun, a place, in our culture "ghetto" is always linked to black people, and don't try to deny it. Is that the image that whites on the campus get of us? We are at a university to be educated and to become more openminded but the this parties just create more closeminded stereotypes.</p>
<p>"Ghetto" is always linked to black people? Ever heard of the ghettos to which Jews were relegated in Nazi Germany?</p>
<p>I swear, if people dressing up and having fun at a party is the worst of your worries then you could use a bit of perspective.</p>
<p>You have to understand that in this culture "ghetto" isn't a racially fired up term. Ghetto is everywhere in people's lives. Just turn on the radio. I am sure these people didn't mean to insult any minority, but simply wanted to have fun and dress like people on the radio that they listen to everyday. It really wasn't meant to be insulting. Once rappers and hip-hop artists stop making ghetto cool then maybe it could be a racially fueled word...but it's really just not right now. I DO see what you are saying and if u look at it in a certain way it is crappy. But u just have to understand that this is probably more of a reflection of modern culture than being racist. </p>
<p>Rappers make ghetto = cool. And you know what...people do think it is cool to be ghetto. So why not have a party where people dress ghetto? They didn't mean "Dress like ur black" because that is obviously a broad statement with no worth. They meant "dress like a rapper because that is what is cool now-a-days and it's fun. Rappers lead fun lives and we r having a party so lets have fun". </p>
<p>I'm not trying to challenge anyones values AT ALL, especially because I am the most unracist person you'll ever meet. I'm constantly the only white person in Diversity Club at the school I go to. But u know what, I can recognize when something is being taken as an over reaction. I do c that u have a valid point...but maybe that point doesn't perfectly fit this situation.</p>
<p>whatever white people never understand what it's like to be a minority. For years you guys have been making excuses for prejudice. It's not likely that u all will change now</p>
<p>wait not all white ppl are like that im sorry, but seriously realize that any form of prejudice whether it be small or big should be addressed</p>
<p>one of my female acquantances made a good point on this topic:</p>
<p>If anybody should be getting angry over offensive party themes, it should be girls!</p>
<p>W/ themes like "Pimps and Hos," "secs and execs," "golf pros & tennis hos," why aren't the women rallying on ho plaza? Those are equally as degrading if not more than any of these aleged racially charged themes. Id be ticked if I was a girl.., but maybe thats just me.</p>
<p>You're right TrackBabi, us white people will never understand what it's like to have an easier time getting into schools, jobs, scholarships and more, all because somewhere along the line some dip**** decided true diversity existed in people that look different. I give you this: <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2674267&page=1%5B/url%5D">http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2674267&page=1</a></p>
<p>Fact is two wrongs don't make a right, and "reverse discrimination" against the majority is no better or worse than discrimination against minorities. I can't tell you how many internship/scholarships I've come across (and I'm sure everyone here has, too) that are Hispanic-only or African-American-only or minority-only. And one $250 Caucasian-only scholarship causes an "outrage." Even those that aren't "minority-only" generally have the obligatory "minorities are encouraged to apply." What if I wanted to say that "White people are encouraged to apply?" There'd be a similar outrage. </p>
<p>Oh but then again, my ancestors MAY have discriminated against African-Americans and Hispanics and other minorities at some point, so it makes tons of sense to "punish" me for it. We should probably start punishing the children of convicted murderers then, too - at least then we KNOW their closest ancestor(s) did something wrong. Oh wait, that doesn't make sense? Really...</p>
<p>Excuse me for the offensive post, but you should have never included your comments about "you all" and "you guys" referring to white people in general if you weren't looking for a reply of this nature [Apologizing in the same post doesn't count. That's the equivalent of walking up to someone, telling them you are sorry for what you are about to do, then punching them in the face. You think that person accepts the apology?]. I really don't give a flying **** what my ancestors did to "your people," I am my own person and what other white people do or have done should have NOTHING to do with the way I am treated. The sooner YOU (not "your people") realize that the better the world will be.</p>
<p>wow do some research. You think it's much easier to be a minority? wow. Look up some statistics on how many minorities actually do get a fair chance in the white man's world or better yet check out this vid with one of ur own talking about recial preference:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4ZdR1alqmM%5B/url%5D">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4ZdR1alqmM</a></p>
<p>I always believed that scholarships should be socioeconomic and not racially based. Could one be causative of the other sometimes? Yes. Are they always? No. There are rich people of every race and poor people of every race. I do not oppose affirmative action, but only if it is used in a correct socioeconomic setting. If a minority has had the same chance as a white person they should be viewed on the same level IMHO. I do believe that minorities were given unequal opportunities and it should be fixed. It just sucks for the people who get the short straw!!!</p>
<p>"One of ur [sic] own"? </p>
<p>You have such a warped view of race that I don't think debate is even possible. The man to whom you linked isn't one of "my own". He is a human being who happens to be wrong.</p>
<p>TrackBabi, Haha, I'll have to side with CandidateA on this. I don't have "people" of my own. The reason prejudice still exists is because people like Tim Wise are so focused on it they keep it in the forefront of everyone's mind (and people like you continue to pretend the "white man" is holding you back in "his world"). Don't you find it a little odd that the poster of that video conveniently left out the rebuttal (or at least the speech) from one of the authors of the MCRI?</p>
<p>like i said u all will never understand...</p>
<p>trackbabi, i'm sorry, but this is weak.</p>
<p>you can't just say that we "all will never understand" because everyone has their own circumstance. each individual is able to understand their own place in society, and in reality, no other.</p>
<p>pretty people don't understand what it's like to be ugly
skinny people don't understand what it's like to be fat
white people don't understand what it's like to be black
popular people don't understand what it's like to be an outcast</p>
<p>now, some of you may think that those examples don't make any sense, but they do. every individual has their own set of advantages and disadvantages that contribute to their individuality. everyone has a hardship of some sort to overcome. i just don't see how you can lump large groups of people together based on the color of their skin and accuse whole groups of being racist and ignorant. you seem to be continuing the ugly cycle of prejudice with your comments. maybe i don't understand what it is like to be you, but you don't understand what it's like to be me or anyone else here. </p>
<p>also, i agree with figgy on the fact that scholarships should be based on socioeonomics. black or white, if you need financial aid to get an education, you should be in the running for the award.</p>
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The double-standard of "racism" these days is ridiculous. I was at that SAE party described - what exactly is wrong with having a party where upstairs is Canada with Canadien-themed decorations, downstairs has some sand and is supposed to look like a beach in Mexico, and the dancefloor is the US? How is that, in ANY way, offensive?</p>
<p>This stuff seriously <strong><em>es the *</em></strong> out of me. "Ghetto" themed parties "mock racial heritage"? Give me a ***ing break. So what, only black people are allowed to dress "ghetto?" Only Mexican people can wear sombreros and drink Dos Equis?
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<p>Exactly. I thought I had enough of this politically correct horses*** when I left Canada. Apparently not..</p>
<p>I don't see why a fraternity should be apologizing for having a "South of the Border" party in which they encouraged people to wear sombreros and drink Corona.</p>
<p>And why do I not see these crybabies complain about St. Patty's day parties...</p>
<p>I understand that at other schools, similar parties went on with some racial stereotyping going on, such as dressing up as pregnant Hispanic teenagers, or illegal immigrants, but from what I hear from friends who were at the parties, nothing of that sort took place.</p>
<p>I think trackbabi is a just a troll making outlandish statements about other people just to incite debate. Frankly, she could use a few classes on on sociology and psychology and realize that people naturally stereotype in order to make things easier to understand. This applies to biology, politics, and cultures. We stereotype everyday about things ranging from cars, to babies, to sex, to race. </p>
<p>Certain stereotypes can lead to prejudice views, but one should not really be confusing stereotyping with prejudice and racism. The latter two and purposefully incendiary while stereotyping is something that humans naturally do. I think we all need to stop being oversensitive and just chill.</p>