racism in college

<p>i recently stumbled across a website called stormfront that is full of "white nationalist"
it really opened my eyes to a lot of the ignorance that still goes on....now i'm really nervous about college life...</p>

<p>have you had any experiences with racism in college? if so please share
and also is the white nationalist route the way a lot of white people think?? or are they just the minority?</p>

<p>There is racism everywhere. And sexism. And every other form of discrimination.</p>

<p>Speaking as a white person - there is a lot that many (perhaps most) white people don’t know and we often do or say dumb things because of it. Some of those dumb things do turn out to be racist, or at least ignorant, in a subtle way. And there is a definitely a group of overtly racist white people who are ugly and hate-filled to the bone. But the haters are a minority.</p>

<p>In college you will probably find many people who don’t realize that something is often considered racist or racially insensitive (for example, telling a black woman she is a beautiful “creature”), and you may have a hard time changing their minds. You may also encounter people who have subconscious biases against blacks (they might hesitate in going to a black doctor, for example). However, you will not find many people who overtly and explicitly believe that whites are superior to blacks.</p>

<p>The internet can make even the tiniest minority seem bigger than it is. Because people who didn’t have enough numbers to have much of a voice can now have a voice for virtually no cost.</p>

<p>Most white people regard white supremacists as looney-tunes throwbacks to a backwards era in history.</p>

<p>I will say this though, most white people have zero problems with non-whites in principle, but something I’ve heard my fellow white people say a lot (only among other white people) is “I don’t have a problem with black people, but people who act all ‘ghetto’ annoy me.”</p>

<p>There’s a famous Chris Rock routine on this very subject, the difference between “black people” and…well, I can’t say it. I know a lot of black people talk about this ALL THE TIME because I hear it in conversations, or black people will talk to me about it, or I’ll read it in a book or article written by a black person, but it’s considered taboo or even racist for a white person to broach the subject, so I tip-toe around it because I don’t need the headache of being called a racist.</p>

<p>For those who don’t know what I’m talking about, a quick historical background (and now I’m <em>really</em> derailing the thread, sorry). There used to be two broad social classes of black people in this country, a relatively educated middle class that was integrated into white neighborhoods throughout the North, and an impoverished, uneducated slave class (contrary to popular belief, not <em>every</em> black American’s ancestor came here on a slave boat, many came here as regular immigrants, became workers, professionals, even slave-owners, etc.).</p>

<p>The impoverished, uneducated slave class had the most social contact with impoverished, uneducated white southerners, the ancestors of today’s rednecks (there was an educated upper class in the South, but they were wiped out by the civil war and now all Southerners are stereotyped as ignorant and poor). These were the descendants of Welsh, Scottish, and Irish immigrants, who in turn came from those parts of the British Isles that were never successfully conquered by Continental invaders and hence were never really civilized (that’s why they became rednecks).</p>

<p>There’s loads more detail I could go into but the basic point is that living among white southerners, who in comparison to the North’s more Germanified and Anglofied culture were considered poor, uneducated, backwards, uncouth, loud, drunk, lusty, improvident, simple-minded, etc., this culture rubbed off on many of the freed slaves after the Civil War. In comparison to many middle class blacks of the North, these Southern blacks did not have much tradition of literacy or work ethic, or at least not to the same extent. When this class migrated North, they tended to be unwanted even by many black Northerners (I’m making broad statements here, just to simplify the situation), and as a result a lot of segregation laws were sprung up. Many Northern blacks were on the forefront of trying to kick out the Southern blacks, believe it or not. Communities in the 1800s went from places where a black dentist would have all-white clientele, to a place where a black person could not legally live.</p>

<p>In essence, the northward migration of many of the freed slaves was akin to a great multitude of white Alabama good ol’ boys moving to Manhattan, and they were about as welcome. It was these “black rednecks” as one writer put it, who more or less formed the urban centers they now call ghettos, and gave rise to the use of “ghetto” as an adjective. When you say a person “acts ghetto,” everybody knows what that means. And now you know why it means what it means.</p>

<p>So what I said earlier is like hearing a black person say “It’s not white people I have a problem with, it’s hillbillies and rednecks. They’re loud, uncouth, uneducated, etc.” People these days can make fun of <em>white</em> rednecks and hillbillies all they want without facing any kind of shunning from society.</p>

<p>Since I totally derailed the thread, I guess I owe it to the OP to get it back on track. Most white nationalist types can barely add fractions, let alone go to college. Many if not most of them are either in jail right now or have spent time in jail or <em>will</em> spend time in jail. They like to pretend they aren’t a bunch of lowlifes, by pointing out of the five or six among them who are professionals or whatever, but on a college campus you are far, far more likely to run into a Black Panther (who probably just came back from having lunch with the Chancellor) or that nutty professor on Youtube calling for the annihilation of the white race than you are to run into actual white supremacy.</p>

<p>What I <em>do</em> see happening in college campuses that I consider racist is using race as a factor in admissions or scholarships.</p>

<p>everyone is at least a little racist…unintentionally i bet you are slightly racist too. racism is just a form of bias and can never be really eliminated unless everyone is EXACTLY teh same</p>

<p>Racism isn’t just by white people to non-white people. It can be from any ethnic group to another.<br>
Either way, I’ve personally experienced it. Racism isn’t a huge part of college, no, but I think a lot depends on where you go.</p>

<p>Woooo, just what the world needs, another black/ hispanic/ latino person who thinks everyone is racist and that the world is out to get him/ her.</p>

<p>Seriously, there won’t be much racism.</p>

<p>You will run into racism, yes, most of it by people who don’t even realize they’re doing it (see above poster who thinks racism is dead and all POC are crazy). As a white person, college actually opened my eyes to how oblivious white people are to both their own racism and the racism of other whites. The chances of running into white nationalists (neo-nazis), on the other hand, is highly unlikely. I’m Jewish, so I’m just as freaked out by them as you are, but I haven’t seen a single one in college.</p>

<p>Alright Curse, give us some juicy examples of the racism you witnessed first-hand. I’m not starting a debate, I just want to know what you’re talking about.</p>

<p>@mathemagician i don’t think everyone is racist and that everyone is out to get me. I’m not saying ALL white people are racist, nor am I saying that people who aren’t white CAN’T be racist, because that’s not true.</p>

<p>I’m just asking if a majority of white people feel the same way as WN and just don’t talk about it openly because it’s not PC to be openly racist.</p>

<p>It just freaks me out that people like WN still exist and have such extreme views…I wasn’t aware that in the 21st century people still had that mentality. This thread wasn’t meant to be ignorant so if I came across as ignorant I apologize. I’m just curious and wondering</p>

<p>I’m white and I was surprised too. I remember the first time I heard a white person use the n-word (are you surprised he was a rednecky low-life type?). To my mind, he might as well have said “and then I rode my horse over to the telegraph office,” it was that dated. I wasn’t even aware that there were people who still disapproved of interracial marriage. Of course, growing up in almost all-white neighborhoods, my contact with black people was mostly limited to my good friend Jamar and what I saw on tv. So I just thought Sidney Poitier, Bill Cosby, Gordon on Sesame Street, Levar Burton on Reading Rainbow, and Urkel were fairly representative of all black people. At the time, I didn’t know Jamar was kind of unusual in his neighborhood for being heavily into sci-fi writers like Asimov, Clarke, Bradbury, Herbert, and the arts, theater, etc.</p>

<p>No, the majority of white people DO NOT feel the same way as white supremacists.</p>

<p>LOl wut?</p>

<p>That site OP mentioned is full of fools and people who are bitter. College is awesome man. My first dorm experience, my neighbours were (L-R), Indian, French, Irish, Goth Chick English, Thai, South African. Racist? Tee Hee!</p>

<p>Oh please, OP - i bet there are black nationalist sites out there too - i dare you, google “black nationalism.” afraid yet? well you shouldn’t be, because you know good and well that white nationalists don’t represent the opinion of most whites, as much as the worthless liberal media wants you to believe they do.</p>

<p>Since when does the liberal media want people to believe that white nationalists represent the majority of caucasians…?</p>

<p>Want to see real racism? Check out the Dayton Police Department–putting lives in danger for the misguided sake of “equality.”</p>

<p>Agreed willimington, that was horrible. Except they were doing it at the demand of the Federal Government.</p>