<p>Racism generally will take two forms. "perpetual foreigner" and "model minority." Try googling and google scholaring both these terms and you'll get some good articles. I particularly like one from Elbert Lin in the Yale Law Review. If I recall correctly it was titled "Identifying Asian America."</p>
<p>Have to live with it guys, unless there are a bunch of activist asians out there (haven't seen any yet) who want to change things. But really, in terms of minorities in the Us, asians are the best-ff because of how hard the first-generation ones work. Thus, there is a stigma against them because the society in general does not believe they should have any special treatment like blacks or hispanics. Also, aren't nearly all asians docotrs or scientists anyways? OR for that matter owners of salons, restaurants, etc. the entreprenuer type?</p>
<p>just to comment I don't think "perpetual foreigner" is a true form of racism, it has more to do with politics than race, and stems from the above comments that many asian american citizens still sympathize more with their former countries than with America.</p>
<p>almost everyone i know treats me like I'm 'Asian'. It gets very annoying.</p>
<p>I go to a school with ~30% Indian or Pakistani. The serious racism seems more within their own cliques. They get upset when Americans mispronounce holidays and places, however on the flip side, many of them mispronouce American places so I guess it evens out in the end. Some people will say Indian to tell someone their smart. I don't know if this is the racism you are talking about because for the most part its good natured.</p>
<p>There isn't really racism in regards to people who are Asian or of Asian descent. We don't have a very large Asian population at my school, but those who are Asian tend to fit in quite well. They are, from what I have seen, all friends with a wide array of people. In the honors/AP classes, I can only think of about three or four in my grade, yet they aren't a clique. At least at my school, people in the AP classes, being the smartest in most instances, tend to befriend each other. For the most part, we are all friends in some capacity. I know that there are some cliques in my school, but they are mostly Hispanic or African American. The people in these cliques, however, tend to regard themselves as ghetto and really don't befriend people of other races very much. I think that those of us in AP classes, however, evaluate each other and make friends more on intelligence and personality. Race is not a deciding factor in regards to whom we befriend.</p>
<p>mmmmmmmmm, lots of asians do cling to themselves (i don;t though, i stopped clinging to asians after i started my first semester at UVA).</p>
<p>some asians are elitist sometimes, because they value intellect/accomplishment/sophistication too much. my mom was like: "where do you go to school? james madision university? where the hell is that? some no-name crappy school?" even though JMU is a pretty good university in Virginia. </p>
<p>well, i don;'t get HOW asians can ever be discriminated against. i mean, asians have the highest average income/salary of all races.....we are the ones who can tell others to "get an education and deal with it" (against, a little elitist here) we may get discriminated ONLY because the other people are jealous, NOT because we are not good enough.</p>
<p>one thing to take notice of..........
in fashion magazines, u see black male models (associated with "muscular", white male models (preppy/handsome) and hispanic/latino models (sexy and charming, it;s all stereotypes tho), but you RARELY see asian male models. they almost don't exist in western fashion magazines. people tend to think us asian males are physically weak and ugly or something. :( that really ****es me off. </p>
<p>everytime i have the feeling that people dont think asian men are attractive (which isn't true), i work harder and harder and hope to get a killer job with huge salary to make up for it. :(</p>
<p>I've noticed that in my school, the asians do tend to be friends. This isn't really a conscious decision as much as that we all know each other in some non-school-related context. ie, my best friend and i are the only two chines people in our grade. we've known each other for years because our fathers used to work together, we went to the same church for a while, we went to chinese school together, our families went to the same social functions, etc etc. </p>
<p>this friend of mine says that she can relate to other asians better, because we understand the pressures that "being asian entails". i guess it's just that we share a cultural background PLUS everything else we have in common.</p>
<p>i agree with ur psychic, to some extent.</p>
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in fashion magazines, u see black male models (associated with "muscular", white male models (preppy/handsome) and hispanic/latino models (sexy and charming, it;s all stereotypes tho), but you RARELY see asian male models. they almost don't exist in western fashion magazines. people tend to think us asian males are physically weak and ugly or something. that really ****es me off.
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<p>Throughout most of the 20th century, Asia has been poor and weak. I'm Korean, and though my country has the world's 11th largest economy, produces top quality electronics and automobiles, and is the current dominant force in Asian culture, most people will probably just think of Kim Jong Il and starving masses when Korea is mentioned. Thankfully, lately, the fortunes are changing and the looming rise of China will hopefully pull some focus away from the Eurocentric vision that has dominated the world view for too long a time.</p>
<p>My point is that the image of Asia is not strong. If we weren't being colonized and fighting with foreigners (and losing), then we were being saved by the great non-Asian liberators, taking us away to the lands of America. Think of all the stories where the foreign man whisks away the Asian woman from the misery of her life in Asia to the joy of being uprooted and alienated from her countryman, to live with those who were superior and benevolent. To deny that this mentality has not had any influence in even the contemporary world is to be completely in denial.</p>
<p>Our generation will have a far easier time adapting to our new environments than our parents ever did. We think of America (or Canada, in my case), as our home, not our native countries. We are more comfortable in English, and do not have language barriers like our parents. Except for minor details, we have grown up in as American a way as possible, so we are not aliens to this world of ours. We see the injustices that are present, and perhaps for the first time in our people's history, we have a legitimate chance of fixing things regarding our status in the Western world. So let's make a laundry list of grievances, and by the time our children are where we are now, we better have fixed at least half of the things on the checklist. Let's go.</p>
<p>Though there's okay racial mixing at my HS, there are places where the stratification is quite apparent. (I'm Indian myself, and I'll refer to myself as "Asian" although the other Asians I refer to are Chinese or Korean). The racial "clumping" is most apparent with the top student in our class of 725 or so. But it's not so much racial as it is the fact that these kids are really the top kids. We hang out with each other not because we're somehow racially conscious, but because we are in all the same load of AP classes, the same competitive teams, etc. All but 1 of the top 20 ranking students in our grade are probably Asian, and that one kid is Caucasian and extremely bright (USNChO camp qualifier). He's as close a friend to us as anyone else. Basically, the "clumping" is based on intellectual achievement, not race, but the fact is, it's mostly Asians with the top intellectual achievement in our school. I've seen the same pattern with other grades enough to realize (thankfully) that there's no racial play going on.</p>
<p>The same, by the way, goes for the Jewish population, which is involved heavily in Model UN, Debate Club, International Club, FBLA, etc. I think the best thing to do is try a variety of activities and meet a variety of people. The asian "clump" with that one caucasian is probably my strongest base of friends, only because I spend so much time with them due to classes and teams, but thanks to those other clubs, I get to talk to all of them.</p>
<p>well, lucky me I don't live in a racist-pig infested area... so I don't experience much racism at all.</p>
<p>However, there was this one occasion where some kid (maybe 13 years old) passed me in the street from behind while I was sitting down, and called me an "old, good-for-nothing asian ****head." (I'm 17 right now, but I have many many gray hairs on the back of my head). I just faced him and told him that in 15 years I was gonna hire him as my janitor, but that his official title would be "toilet cleaner" instead of "janitor." (kind of elitist I guess, but hey, when my blood pressure goes up and the adrenaline pumps in, I do many crazy things)</p>
<p>I got really ticked, but since he was 13 or so, I should probably have been more ticked at whoever was responsible for filling his head with such ignorant and idiotic thoughts.</p>
<p>I just faced him and told him that in 15 years I was gonna hire him as my janitor, but that his official title would be "toilet cleaner" instead of "janitor." ...</p>
<p>Sorry dude, I already hired that kid. First come first serve ;)</p>
<p>when my blood is pumped, i'm the most elitist person in the world.</p>
<p>nbachris2788- I'm Korean too :D :D :D</p>
<p>TO ALL THE ASIANS (WELL THE SMART ONES)
tell yourself that they can go **** themselves!
forget about all those dumb losers. they should be looking for jobs. low wage, sweatshop jobs. sooner or later, we will rule the world with other intelligent people and the dumb ppl will be down on their knees. :D</p>
<p>racism is inevitable. i live in a area where Amish people live and there is racism. for some strange, strange reason, everyone expects me to be a smart, overachieving nerd. those people kind of get on my nerves but i guess it could be a positive thing because it pushes you to do well. but people I DESPISE are people of ANY RACE who call themselves "ghetto" and walk like they've been shot at. i am angry at those kind of asians because they are a disgrace. how dare they wear rags and talk like an ignorant fool when their parents worked their a** off to bring them to America so they could get a better education? they literally "represent" the asian race and give it a bad name. i really want to gather those people and stick them in a factory so they can do something more productive. </p>
<p>unlike some of you, i only have like 20 asians in my HS and most of them are shy. i am used to having mostly white friends.
there is racism between asian/black, asian/asian, and pretty much, asian/anyone else. but i also think that asians are strong racists against other races, particularly African Americans and Hispanics. in my opinion, lots of asians dislike most groups considered unintelligent.</p>
<p>I'm an Asian, and Asians are racist against me, because I'm too "white-washed" and Europeanized/Americanized.</p>
<p>This one international kid actually said to me, "You're not Asian American, you're just American." Somehow, they completely overlooked the fact that I speak my native language fluently, I've been to my parents' homeland more than they have, and rather aware of my ethnic community.</p>
<p>They just hear my "valleygirl" accent, see that I was born in the South and raised in Los Angeles, see that I don't like Asian food, see that my room looks like any other "white girl's" room and immediately think I'm a disgrace to Asians.</p>
<p>C'mon, people. I was born and raised in America. My grandparents were Europeanized. My parents were war victims. Am I supposed to grow up traditionally Asian?</p>
<p>Also, I'm Vietnamese. A lot of Chinese people (in general) around my area think my "people" are aggressive and rude.</p>
<p>The other day, this Asian Community guy calls. "What do you want to major in? Wait, lemme guess... biochem?"
"No."
"Pre-med?"
"No."
"Some sort of engineering."
"No."
"What then?"
"Actually, philosophy or linguistics, but my first choice is television or film."</p>
<p>He seemed rather surprised.</p>
<p>So, basically, I conclude that there are a lot of conservative Asians are almost xenophobic.</p>
<p>i know what you mean. it can't be helped. the "americanising" gets to you sooner or later. those conservatives are ignorant.</p>
<p>can we all just get along?</p>
<p>Yeah, a lot of people in my school have no idea that i'm chinese unless they hear me speaking in chinese..which is useful sometimes when i dont want to be overheard. this may be partly due to the fact that i look more hawaiin or filipino or se asian than oriental....but also because i'm americanized. im not a stereotypical "fob".</p>
<p>not sure what to make of these comments...how many asians actually are stereotypical fobs?</p>
<p>ok nvm, that was a stupid question.</p>
<p>There are relatively few Asians in Cleveland, but I can see how that being Asian and having these ridiculous stereotypes would annoy the hell out of someone. There are very few if at all Asians on network TV programs. But there is a black on every show or on every commerical it seems like. Is it that Asians are generally quiet and reserved that they don't get the same treatment in the media that blacks do? It must have something to do with it, because America is whooped against black people anymore, bowing down to anything Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton say. Asians would probably get more TV roles and items of this nature if they were more vocal, but then again it is better to blend in and make millions than protest and be broke the rest of your life. So I totally see how people of Asian decent would be pist off at their portrayal in the media. (like all kung-fu rolls, or the typical yellow face joke)</p>
<p>In many ways, I fit the Asian stereotype. I'm smart, I'm short, and I eat a lot of rice (lol).
But in a lot of ways, I'm also different from a lot of Asians. I don't particulary like math and science; if I had it my way, I'd be a famous actress because I love acting. I try to break away from the Asian stereotype, but it's hard cause sometimes it seems as if I'm not proud to be an Asian. I guess I just don't want people to see me, and label me a certain way because I'm Asian and they think they know me. My parents don't help of course, especially my mom. Whenever my friends go out and get to stay out late or whatever, a lot of times, she places stricter rules on me such as you have to be home by this time or whatever. Same goes for if I wanted to get my ears pierced again or my belly button pierced, etc. she would say no. In all of these cases, my mom's reasoning amounts to "It's because we're Chinese, and that isn't what Chinese people do. Just look at all my Asian friends, they're children aren't like that, and don't do this." It's kind of ridiculous that she says this. I mean, if she expects people to not see Asians as a prototype, and realize that we are all actually different people just like Caucasians, I don't think her reasoning helps, especially when she constantly thinks people try to take advantage of her in situations because she is Asian. So I think half the problem here is our old-fashion, traditionalist parents who want people to stop stereotyping and discriminating against Asians, but do so much to fit the stereotypes that are out there.</p>