<p>^^^ I made the comment about asians not being URMs as a response to mallomarcookie saying that they are. the comment had nothing to do with the article or racism.</p>
<p>This artilce is pure bulls**t. If anything, it will result in the creation of a new CR vocab question. </p>
<p>Here it is:</p>
<p>The person who wrote the article in the Princetonian mocking Jian Li in the Princetonian is a(n)______</p>
<p>(a) racist
(b) ignoramus
(C) a**hole
(d) disgrace to the human race
(e) all of the freaking above!</p>
<p>Princeton University is no better than the author though. This article should have never been published. IMO, Princeton should be ashamed for allowing this to be printed, especially on the web for everyone to see. So much for Princeton's "we don't discrminate against Asians" claim.</p>
<p>Isn't it funny that this article makes fun of Li's English, yet he scored 800 on CR and Writing? Based on this lame excuse for an article, I highly doubt the author pulled of double 800s on the English SAT sections.</p>
<p>I'm pretty sure that the intent of the editor wasn't to insult asians, and I'm pretty sure that the editor actually LIKES asians. S/He wouldn't dare to publish such an article, even as a joke, if it reflected true feelings.</p>
<p>However, I do think that the article was written in poor taste, and some people will misconstrue the intention and give the joke article more weight than it intended, and I would have preferred if such an article wasn't written.</p>
<p>Think about it like MadTV or SNL.
Everyone knows it's all racist, but no one takes it seriously.</p>
<p>if someone thinks this is not a stereotype or racist article, they need to check themselves</p>
<p>The way the authors used grammar to imply that Jian Li is a math & science nerd.
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Yellow people make the world go round. We cook greasy food, wash your clothes and let you copy our homework. Brown people are catching up, too but not before the 2008 Beijing Olympics.
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<p>Notice the WE in there. If that's not stereotype? what is?</p>
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I make record for number of science fairs entered. I stay after school with Mu Alpha Theta eight hours everyday after school to memorize the 2,309,482,039,482,309 digits of pi. I play yo-yo. I memorize William Hung dance for college application video (See <a href="http://www.youtube.com%5B/url%5D">www.youtube.com</a> for my peformance. Aleksey Vayner's dance scene almost as good as mine. Almost.). I play in New Jersey Youth Orchestra five years in row. Violin, piano, viola, clarinet and cello. All at same time.
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My mom from same province as General Tso. My dad from Kung Pao province. I united 500 years of Rice Wars.
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He does not hate white people and in fact would like to extend an open welcome to all races (including no-color) to his Chinese New Year celebrations held in Berkeley College.
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<p>berkeley???</p>
<p>Hepstar, it isn't fair to blame the entire institutions for the insensitivity of one student. I agree that the article was offensive, but the decision to print it doesn't go further than the author and a few editors. No higher power oversees the Daily Princetonian, as far as I know. Even if the administration did know what was being printed, why is censorship the answer?</p>
<p>"Hepstar, it isn't fair to blame the entire institutions for the insensitivity of one student. I agree that the article was offensive, but the decision to print it doesn't go further than the author and a few editors. No higher power oversees the Daily Princetonian, as far as I know. Even if the administration did know what was being printed, why is censorship the answer?"</p>
<p>I don't know about that. Perhaps this wasn't Princeton's doing, but an institution with it's prestige and reputation could have done more to prevent this article from reaching print. It also comes at a bad time, since Jian Li is suing Princeton for discrimination. This article will only strengthen his case.</p>
<p>I wouldn't blame the nebulous entity "Princeton" (the whole university at large) for this incident. The Daily Princetonian and its administration failed, and hopefully University officials are doing something about it just as it would discipline any other student group.
I don't know that this strengthen's Jian Li's case. It proves that some people in the Princeton student body are racist, but we already knew that; there are racists everywhere. The admissions office (the group that Jian Li is criticizing) isn't this sophomoric--give them more credit than that.</p>
<p>This article will be associated with Princeton university, so that alone will help out Li.</p>
<p>While many call this article out and wish it would have not been published It points out a key point- This is America the year is 2007 and these sorts of stereotypes and profiling occurs on a daily basis. As much as a gag this story is it serves a higher purpose that it got people talking. People have been trying to avoid talking about race issues for a long time and every time something comes up we freak out. But its when we freak out that we talk about it, and when we talk about it there is a chance for change.</p>
<p>the daily princetonian is doing joke articles. have some fun.. princeton can do whatever it wants, it's #1</p>
<p>Here's a quote from the Parent Forum:</p>
<p>"I notice that the column is part of the Princetonian's annual joke issue. The offensive comic strip that University of Minn.'s newspaper ran also was part of a joke issue.</p>
<p>I wish that students would learn the difference between being funny and being offensive."</p>
<p>Here is a description of the U Minn. incident for background:</p>
<p>"About 5 years ago, the U of Minn. daily newspaper -- one of the largest circulation student papers in the country-- ran a so-called comic strip that did make fun of blacks. It contained Ebonics, had the low-educated characters drinking large cans of booze, disrespecting women and spouting profanity. It was supposed to be funny, and I heard that the cartoon was drawn by a white student who allegedly loved rap music and thought black people were cool. Believe it or not, apparently, he wasn't trying to be offensive, but most have gotten his perspective of black culture from gangsta rap."</p>
<p>Maybe because we aren't Princeton students we don't fully "understand." I know that the article comes across as rascist and such, and I sort of agree with a lot of things that have been said here, but maybe we just don't "get it." I know that my high school newspaper runs a joke issue, and my parents saw it and absolutely flipped out about how horribly offensive it was (not necessarily rascist, but just really offensive). I had a hard time explaining to them that it was a huge inside joke within the school and that it was viewed differently by people who actually go to my school. So while some Princeton students were angered by the article, maybe it's just something that we don't..."get." I'm not saying that that excuses racism, but I'm just speculating that maybe there is more to the article than we are seeing here.</p>
<p>Something can be offensive-and-funny without using groups of people as the butt of the joke...for example, sex jokes</p>
<p>How would a sex joke fit with the Jian Li situation?</p>
<p>It wouldn't. There's been plenty of semi-rational discussion about affirmative action in student newspapers around the country...Princeton students are brilliant, I'm sure they could figure out a way to add to that rational discussion (if they haven't already treated it in their newspaper, which I'm sure they have)</p>
<p>If they insisted on joking about it (which is also a great way to get a message across) they could have joked about it in a different way...I'm not a comedian but I haven't seen any topic that can't be joked about without resorting to racism</p>
<p>I just have a question...if there had been articles in the joke issue that made fun of other races too, would this be as big of a problem? Like, if there was one article that made horrible stereotypes about African-Americans and used Ebonics for the writing and one that made stereotypes about Hispanics and used Mexican-slang (I'm Mexican, so I know what that sounds like...but I guess not many do), hypothetically, would the Jian Li article have been...a little bit better-received? I know that rascist jokes are insulting in general, but I for one find jokes directed my own "ethnic group" to be really funny. That probably makes me a bad person, but I just think they're hilarious and making fun of things that I know really well. I'm not saying that making rascist jokes is OK, but if ALL races had been made fun of, would this article have seemed as bad?</p>
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princeton can do whatever it wants, it's #1
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<p>I hope you're not being serious. The idea that an institution should be able to do whatever it wants is absurd. In most cases, I don't have a problem with joke articles throwing around a few stereotypes (in many cases the articles are actually lampooning the stereotype), but this article clearly crossed the line. I hope that the administration takes action. To those who bring up the free speech argument, remember that hate speech is not protected. I don't know if this article would qualify as such, but it certainly should never have been printed.</p>
<p>A facebook group opposed to the article was started today. There are 117 members so far. I don't have facebook (my roommate showed me), so someone else can update how quickly its growing. The group's founder is calling for a letter-writing campaign.</p>
<p>I thought it was funny until I realized Jian Li did not actually write the article...</p>
<p>lol what's the facebook group called Icargirl? I'd like to check it out.</p>