<p>This is a tough crowd Peariceparent ;), I must admit that I thought of the dish peas and rice, or maybe "pea" was your initials! Anyway Rice is a great school, and I thought the way they said it in NC was "Harvard, the Duke of the North". Rice is waaayyy cooler :D.</p>
<p>Let's see...David W. Leebron, became President of Rice University in 2004 coming from Colombia University School of Law as Dean. He received his B.A. from Harvard and his J.D. from Harvard Law School.</p>
<p>a famous harvard alumnus once said that Harvard was in fact, the Michigan of the east. No one is making this up.</p>
<p>" "Phillips Exeter Academy" The conversation just stopped. "</p>
<p>nice.</p>
<p>on an old viewbook about berkeley that my dad has, the president of the united states (i forgot which one) is quoted saying "harvard is the berkeley of the east" because his cabinet had so many berkeley alums in it. berkeley (undergrad) is now, at least on these CC boards, not as elite as harvard.</p>
<p>Phillips Exeter...oh yeah...the typing, secretarial & dental assistant school. I thought those things had gone out of style. They say things like "The tooth shall set you free."</p>
<p>yeah... when i tell people NYU i get a lot of ...wow...i thought you were straight. haha i have a girlfriend , too btw. gosh, idiots!</p>
<p>"Northwestern? Why do you want to go to school in Alaska?"</p>
<p>Calidan, that was a LOL!</p>
<p>Oh KK19131, that's a good one You get :D :D :D :D</p>
<p>Hehe... thanks. ;)</p>
<p>There a Dad who posts here occasionally whose child is got into Northwestern ED - he's from my state (Alabama) he needs to read that one, I think he will see the humor.</p>
<p>USNEWS gets the rankings right each year, no school is overrated or underrated in the top 15, except for hpy, all are given about the same weight. so duke, northwestern, stanford, mit and cal tech are all worthy of the exact same prestigious in different areas (economics, engineering, science, humanities) but everyone always forgets chicago, only the best econ program in the country :)</p>
<p>Farbdogg,</p>
<p>Schools ARE overrated and underrated in USNEWS. Is Penn really four and Brown thirteen? I dont think so. Schools like Emory and Hopkins have fluctuated up to nine spots in consecutive years, and everyone knows this is impossible. Also, as people often forget, we are talking UNDERGRAD here. The overall experience matters much more than strength in specific departments in most cases, outside of the pre-professional areas (engineering and business).</p>
<p>no your wrong, and schools move based on the applicants they had one specific year, so based on the QUALITY of students the school takes in determines its rank</p>
<p>so for graduating students, the better the incoming class the better they look</p>
<p>kfc4u
i was reading School of Dreams yesterday (the book about whitney h/s in california), and there was an example where one korean dad wouldnt let his kid go to Rice but instead made his kid go to UC Berkeley because Rice had no name recognition with his colleagues in south korea and he would be ashamed/wouldnt know what to say to them.</p>
<p>(sorry, don't know how to quote)</p>
<p>haha, definitely something a korean parent would do.</p>
<p>real-life example: a korean girl i know was accepted to all the ivies except yale. her parents didn't speak to her for a week.</p>
<p>then she decided to go to upenn.
her parents didn't speak to her for a month.</p>
<p>Farbdogg,</p>
<p>No, YOU'RE wrong (not your). The "selectivity" of a school is only 15% of the ranking, a .1 change in "reputation" impacts it more than the applicant pools most years. Take Brown, it has consistently had top applicant pools and incoming classes, yet it has fallen because of a shift in what USNEWS values as criteria (Brown is lower than its ivy peers in academic resources, i.e. money.) </p>
<p>Trust me, I know a lot about this stuff. If schools were ranked on strength of incoming classes there would be a great shift in the rankings.</p>
<p>Bard has been something of a conversation-stopper in my experience. People ask about my top choices, and I say, Harvard, Indiana, Vanderbilt, and Bard, and they don't know what to make of me! (Then they figure out that I actually care about academic programs more than about reputation...)</p>
<p>whoever cited the example of the korean and the parent, you need to stop lying or spreading of the lie. asian parents want the best for their children, but you can goto china, korea, japan, anywhere in the world and you won't find a parent like that.</p>
<p>i cited the korean parent example, and it was off a book (School of Dreams by Edward Humes) based on a teacher's (Humes') observations and his conversations with his students. so dont bash me.</p>
<p>by the way, if they wanted the best for their children, wouldnt that korean parent let his kid go to Rice (the kid's personal first choice) or at least consider it, since rice is pretty good and can offer more personal attention since it's much smaller than berkeley?</p>