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how ever did Indiana win 7 naitional championships in soccer (more than any ACC school); etc.?
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<p>indiana is good in soccer but one team is good in one sport doesn't make the conference strong in that sport! the ACC has more good teams in soccer than any conference (VA used to win several consecutive national champs) UVA coach went on and became US soccer coach and brought the sport to another level in the US.</p>
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k&s just listed bunch of sports that are team sports but just not what acc is good at (relative to pac10; volleyball, softball, water polo, tennis, crew). Either you don't watch much of these sports or you just give a new definition: teams sports are those at which acc is good.
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<p>the ACC is good in team sports! it's just they don't play those sport (waterpolo ...) that's why other conferences who played dominated.</p>
<p>if u can find stats from the sports both ACC and Pac 10 play or Big 10 play that pac 10 or big 10 are superior over acc then that would considered more helpful. That would be more like in the same context to compare. Where as you compare swimming or waterpolos or volley over soccer or basketball that wouldn't be sufficient to say who's better. From what I know and see from stats, sports that both conference plays, the ACC dominates.</p>
<p>3 ACC teams, good enough over Big 10 and Pac 10?</p>
<p>field hockey
1996 North Carolina (23-1)
1997 North Carolina (20-3)
1998 Old Dominion (23-2)
1999 Maryland (24-1)
2000 Old Dominion (25-1)
2001 Michigan - Game Recap|Results (18-5)
2002 Wake Forest (20-2)
2003 Wake Forest - Game Recap (22-1)
2004 Wake Forest- Game Recap (20-3)
2005 Maryland</p>
<p>Most of the pac-10 schools don't play lax or field hockey just like most, if not all, acc schools don't have gymnastics or water polo teams. Please put some effort on your research; it took me no more than 3 mins to find this out with the following links: </p>
<p>ACC do participate in swimming and w. volleyball. Using common sense, I'd think these are two of the common sports for most schools. ACC teams are just relatively lousy in these two. </p>
<p>You listed only 91-96 for soccer. Thanks for showing your inconsistency so obviously. From 97 through 06, Big 10 had 4 championships and 1 runner-up while Pac-10 had 2 championships and 3 runner-ups. ACC got 2 champions and 1 runner-up. I actually didn't know Big10 and Pac10 are that good in soccer. Thanks for exposing that. It was too easy. :D By the way, don't you think you were a little low and cheap in doing that?</p>
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You listed only 91-96 for soccer. Thanks for showing your inconsistency so obviously. From 97 through 06, Big 10 had 4 championships and 1 runner-up while Pac-10 had 2 championships and 3 runner-ups. ACC got 2 champions and 1 runner-up. I actually didn't know Big10 and Pac10 are that good in soccer. Thanks for exposing that. It was too easy. By the way, don't you think you were a little low and cheap in doing that?
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<p>my post got cut off because it's too long or something </p>
<p>here again another attempt</p>
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1991 Virginia* (19-1-2)
1992 Virginia (21-2-1)
1993 Virginia (22-3)
1994 Virginia (22-3-1)
1995 Wisconsin (20-4-1)
1996 St. John</p>
<p>1991 North Carolina (25-0)
1992 North Carolina (25-0)
1993 North Carolina (23-0)
1994 North Carolina (25-1-1)
1995 Notre Dame (21-2-2)
1996 North Carolina (25-1)
1997 North Carolina (27-0-1)
1998 Florida (26-1)</p>
<p>1999 North Carolina (24-2)
2000 North Carolina (21-3)
2001 Santa Clara (23-2)
2002 Portland (20-4-2)
2003 North Carolina (27-0)
2004 Notre Dame (24-1-1)
2005 Portland</p>
<p>there's like 1 good school in soccer for big 10 (men's). That doesn't make the conference strong. And we all know that Duke, Maryland always been to the final 4 last 3,4 years. Maryland has the most # of wins in soccer in the nation for the last 5 years. A conference that sends all but 1 to the ncaa tournement is of course, stronger than any others. As for the women's you can see for urself.</p>
<p>before u call someone low and cheap, sam lee be more considered, as my post got cut off. It doesn't take that long to figure out why a list is cut off in the middle. read this too</p>
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I tried having a long post where I listed each school, but it wasn't working, don't know why. It cut off after the first school.
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<p>here again another attempt</p>
<p>men's
1991 Virginia* (19-1-2)
1992 Virginia (21-2-1)
1993 Virginia (22-3)
1994 Virginia (22-3-1)
1995 Wisconsin (20-4-1)</p>
<p>Crew? Wrestling? No way. Ice Hockey? Certainly on the pro level, but not college. College hockey is only played by colleges in the northernmost tier of states. I don't care much about soccer either, but it is more broadly played at the collegiate level. </p>
<p>Mystery of life question: Do you know anybody who loves hockey who also likes soccer?</p>
<p>soccer might suck in america because we, american, suck!
we can't catch up with the world's trend</p>
<p>I'm sure more people watch soccer in america at any level than wrestling, crew, maybe even ice hockey (at pro level soccer & ice hockey have about the same # of attendance).</p>
<p>soccer sucks because it is a boring sport. why do i want to watch a 90 minute game where no one scores, for it to come down to penalty shots? </p>
<p>any sport where the net is 20 feet wide, 10 feet tall, and the ball is like 12 inches in diamter that doesn't have massive amounts of scoring is boring.</p>
<p>even hockey has as redeeming value as its fun to watch in person - theres nothing better then watching people kick the crap out of each other with sticks. but soccer isn't even fun to watch in person.</p>
<p>I think some people forget that lots of Latinos watch soccer and America has LOTS of Latinos now. I guess it takes a while for some to get used to thinking of them (the ones already natuaralized or born here) as "Americans".</p>
<p>Every time I see soccer players showing off how they can bounce the ball off all parts of their body and never let it hit the ground, I feel like saying, "Very impressive, Sergio, but if you're so good with the ball, how come you can't get it in that gigantic goal more than once a month?"</p>
<p>And the worst is when they get nicked and fall down and roll around on the ground like they just got shot in the stomach."</p>
<p>interesting or boring is up to each person to decide, some say golf is pretty damn boring, but others see differently. but there are goals in almost every soccer game. The games that have like 0-0 scores are like one in a thousand. Once you get in the game and understand it, that's when you like it. </p>
<p>when i was a kid i watch basketball and i was like what the hell is this? why do people score so many baskets, that make each basket less important already. but then when i watch more and i actually like it now.</p>