<p>would you mind giving Chicago?</p>
<p>lets remember that for the class of 2011, for accepted students, cornell has an average sat verbal of 700 and an average sat math of 720 (that's of all the colleges). </p>
<p>now I understand that many will say that these are just stats for accepted students and not matriculated students. but, remember, cornell's had an average SAT of 1385 for last years matriculated class when the overall accepted average wasn't that high. so, now that the overall accepted average has increased significantly, expect the overall matriculated average to increase also--past 1400. </p>
<p>third point: i actually think that the contract colleges help boost cornell's SAT average, or at least level it off. for, they are not that far off from the endowed colleges (even higher than some), and the college of arts and sciences has a crappy yield in the 30%s, while the contract colleges have a relatively high yield (some at 80% +). so, when it all boils down and all that has to be said is said, colleges like arts and sciences end up having a lower SAT average than you think as many "top" students go to other schools.</p>
<p>1 Stanford 98.5<br>
2 Dartmouth 97.3<br>
3 Wash U St. Louis 97.3<br>
4 Harvard 97.0<br>
5 Princeton 96.8<br>
6 Rice University 96.8<br>
7 Columbia 96.3<br>
8 MIT 96.3<br>
9 Yale 95.8<br>
10 University of Chicago 94.5
11 Brown 94.0<br>
12 Tufts University 93.8<br>
13 Cal Tech 93.3<br>
14 Emory University 92.8<br>
15 Navy 92.8<br>
16 Notre Dame 92.5<br>
17 Vanderbilt 92.5<br>
18 Georgetown 92.0<br>
19 Boston College 91.8<br>
20 Cornell 91.5</p>
<p>"It is purportedly a ranking of colleges, yet there is no evaluation of what those colleges themselves provide beyond their function in screening applicants- a task performed before students even matriculate."</p>
<p>^^^Bingo. I hear so much whining about the peer assessment score or using faculty prestige as a measure of educational quality, so in the end what do these posters use to rank the Ivies? The students! Nothing to do with the programs the schools offer, the faculty, the facilities, the academic rigor, or anything that's intrinsic to the actual school. </p>
<p>The selectivity (or quality of the student body as the two go hand in hand) is important only in one respect: being surrounded by motivated, intelligent classmates forces you to do your best in order to keep up. In this respect, the "1000th freshmen" statistic is sufficient. What this means is that there are plenty of intelligent students at Cornell to surround yourself with if you so choose.</p>
<p>"to help my brother with the college process, i used princeton review "quality ratings" to come up with averages to rank the different colleges. i wont go into the methodology (not thats it's complicated), but here are the ivies and their score averages (based on selectivity, quality of academics, quality of campus life, and rankings)"</p>
<p>I'm sorry to say this, if you were looking on the "princeton review quality ratings" to help your brother form an objective way of looking at schools, you wasted your time. PR is, by far, the worst source to look up college rankings; they change drastically from year to year. those average scores you posted are based on things that are ABSOLUTELY subjective, none of which are based on subjective data except for "rankings" which I'm sure they draw from another subjective soruce. Selectivity, quality of academics, quality of campus life cannot be numerically equated without mentioning things like average SAT/ACT scores, admit rate, graduation rate, top 10% student body, and if those figures were used, that would just be the same as USNews. PR is based almost entirely on the opinion of a single company called Princeton Review.</p>
<p>You'd get a more objective estimation of the school's quality by looking at USNews then your PR "quality rankings."</p>
<p>this is what i've come to expect.</p>
<p>Generally:
1. Harvard
2. Yale
3. Princeton
4. Columbia
Tie 5. Penn-Dartmouth-Cornell-Brown</p>
<p>Me:
Yale
Harvard
Princeton
Columbia
Penn
Cornell
Dartmouth
Brown</p>