Really tough call, please help. Michigan vs Cornell

<p>I guess all this talk about Ross has definitely got my attention. However, wouldn’t I have to stay at Michigan for an extra year if I were to transfer to Ross?</p>

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<p>Booth, Darden, Fuqua, Tuck, and Haas are outstanding as well but Ross is definitely in the mix as far as Management goes.</p>

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Yes good point, on second thought, go to Cornell without reservation. If you wanted to get admitted to Ross, you wouldn’t graduate Michigan till the Spring of 2016. That’s an extra years worth of tuition compared to Cornell and since the odds of landing a top-tier Management Consulting job is pretty low all things considered anyway, I would definitely save your money and go to Cornell. At least IBanks recruit a wide variety of majors at Cornell unlike at Michigan so ILR at Cornell would give you access to far better job recruiting than LSA @ UMich.</p>

<p>Here are the tiers for consulting/management</p>

<ol>
<li>Ross / AEM</li>
<li>Cornell/UMich Engineering</li>
<li>ILR</li>
<li>LSA
(Note: #1 and 2 are tied due to marginal differences)</li>
</ol>

<p>Previous threads say that internal transfer to AEM is actually 30% not too far off of Ross’s 39%</p>

<p>ForeverAlone, your post above seems pretty accurate for IBanking, but not for Management Consulting. Here’s how I would break it down:</p>

<p>IBanking:
1 Ross / AEM
2. Cornell Engineering / UMich Engineering
3. LSA / ILR</p>

<p>Management Consulting:

  1. Ross
  2. UMich Engineering / AEM / Cornell Engineering
  3. LSA / ILR</p>

<p>Ross really has the edge when it comes to Management Consulting.</p>

<p>I’m going to inquire how easy/difficult it would be to transfer into AEM at Cornell. Seems like ILR is effectively out then.</p>

<p>Cornell. Open up a spot on the wait list for someone dying to get into Michigan.</p>

<p>“Open up a spot on the wait list for someone dying to get into Michigan.”
LOLLLLLLLLL why should this be ANY part of anyone’s decision criteria?</p>

<p>Employment statistics for ILR
<a href=“http://www.ilr.cornell.edu/admissions/Careers/upload/Final-2011-ILR-Postgraduate-Report.pdf[/url]”>http://www.ilr.cornell.edu/admissions/Careers/upload/Final-2011-ILR-Postgraduate-Report.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Base salary is around 50k, but keep in mind that 45% of those are in the NY metro area, so that’s not all that much when you adjust for cost-of-living. </p>

<p>LSA does not post employment data. That’d be unfair since there is a great percentage of those interested in post-graduate studies. And it’s unfair to compare empirically with solely LSA since there’s a huge difference between someone who majored in History and someone who majored in Mathematics/Physics/CompSci</p>

<p>Since nobody’s brought it up, maybe it isn’t germane to the discussion but:</p>

<p>a) which, if either, school requires the least debt (eg are you in state? high need? no need?)</p>

<p>b) which environment do you like better?</p>

<p>At the end of the day, it’s often your connections/peers that prove helpful in future career networking. In this sense, Michigan’s strong alumni network would not hurt if you’re the type to network…</p>

<p>Finances won’t be a problem, I’d like to go to the school that’d give me the biggest leg up in on these fields. However, a point to note, I’ve made many good(and powerful) friends here at NYU that I would certainly love to keep in touch with. Also, I’ve already started to develop some connections with Cornell Global China Connection, a club at NYU that I’ve been actively involved with, and we’re planning a consulting trip to China ini the upcoming year. Would these personal preferences outweigh Michigan?</p>

<p>Only the universe knows, and she isn’t telling :wink: HOWEVER, I would not completely discount continuity and building on connections you’ve already made.</p>

<p>Mistasuggs, you clearly want to attend Cornell. I am not sure why you have come to this forum if your opinion/decision was already formed. Do you just was us to rubber stamp your decision and tell you that Cornell is a better option? That will obviously not happen, but choosing Cornell over Michigan is certainly not a bad decision. Cornell is an awesome university.</p>

<p>Always a joy to hear decent people waste their key strokes waxing on about rankings. How ever did people make life decisions before computers took over our lives?</p>

<p>Please be advised that I have a friend who graduated from Cornell’s ILR and couldn’t get a job. And this was in a time when the US actually had unions. He signed up with the army and went to war in Kosovo. He survived but not unscathed.</p>

<p>Not that UM is any better. Or Princeton. Or Columbia. I know graduates from each one of these ‘really good schools’ who suffered terribly after graduation just in time to receive phone calls from the fund raising departments guilting them into ‘giving back.’</p>

<p>The main criteria for choosing a college is to find a place where you’ll be productive and reasonably happy. The school’s name will not help you. But finding a path in life will. It depends on your nature, interests, and other factors. </p>

<p>Don’t be sucker for this rankings garbage. It helps the school. It doesn’t help the students.</p>

<p>What interests you? What do you want to do with your life? What kind of environment do you like (city, country)? What can of culture do you like - Southern charm, North Eastern competitiveness, Midwestern wholesomeness? </p>

<p>Do you want to be in HR or labor? </p>

<p>These are the questions you should be asking.</p>