<p>In terms of prestige, recruiting(internship and fulltime), and campus life, which one do you think is better? </p>
<p>Here is my research so far, please feel free to add more:</p>
<p>Cornell AEM:
Pros: Ivy-league undergraduate business degree
Cons: relatively unknown outside the academic circle</p>
<p>Michigan Ross:
Pros: stronger in i-banking and consulting recruiting, well-established
Cons: State-school(large class size, out of state tuition)</p>
<p>If you want to go into Business make the sacrifice and go to Michigan. Even though you are not garunteed admission to Ross it is still a better business path to take rather than Cornell. There is not nearly as many top job recruitments there and simply it is not worth it. Unless, you really want to keep your options open like for medical school and law school go to cornell, but for business go to Michigan..simple enough >_></p>
<p>If you can get into the early guaranteed admissions for Ross(they changed it), go for it. Otherwise I'd stay with CornellAEM, the safer choice</p>
<p>if you're guaranteed for ross go, otherwise i would stick with cornell and transfer after 2 years. Cornell AEM is relatively unknown, should've applied to other top biz schools. Cornell AEM is not the best way to land that i-banking job, you would be much better studying economics in some ivy or top private school.</p>
<p>you guys are all completely wrong..you should not comment unless you are informed...Cornell AEM is the second most recruited school for banking/consulting besides Wharton and certainly exceeds UMICH Ross. Umich ross is a great school, but the top ibanks and consulting firms will take more kids per year out of Cornell . This is all factual information and you can find this on line....AEM is very heavily recruited. And you are wrong with one more thing - it is better known in the business world then it is in academia..NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.</p>
<p>The main reason for this is that the kids at Cornell are smarter as a whole than the kids at Umich Ross. Any of us at cornell (I am a senior) could have gotten into Umich Ross, but instead chose to go here for the ivy league prestige, which holds substantial weight in the business world. I was given four offers to top ibanks next year and my friends had similar experiences. Just because a school is ranked higher in US news does not make it a better school. For example, Indiana Kelley - there are kids in my high school who could barely read that got into Indiana Kelley even though it is ranked high. They have great professors there and the school may be excellent but the quality of the student as a whole is poor. You guys need to find out who gets recruited more (for front office positions) when lookoing at schools.</p>
<p>"Cornell AEM is the second most recruited school for banking/consulting besides Wharton..."</p>
<p>Even more recruited than Stern or Harvard?</p>
<p>I am curious about this too because I applied to Cornell, and I already got into Ross preferred admission. </p>
<p>sports 684, can u give a link to Cornell AEM's job placement report or something like that?</p>
<p>I don't know where I can find a link, but believe me every top firm recruits at Cornell - Goldman, Citigroup, JPMorgan, Merrill, Morgan Stanley, Bain, McKinsey, etc. etc. The ivy league degree will get you a lot further than having a business degree from a slightly lesser school...AEM is also now the hardest major at Cornell to get into with a 20% acceptance rate because the recruiting is so heavy from AEM. The only top firm that does not come to Cornell is Citadel - but they only go to Wharton and Harvard...Put it this way, all of my are working at top ibanks next year and I know plenty of juniors working at Lehman, Citi, Goldman and Merrill this summer for their internshps. In fact, i know five kids in my trading class that were offered sophmore ibanking/sales and trading rotational internships this summer. It is not a huge mistake if you choose Ross as they are recruited well, but there is something to be said about an ivy league degree and Wall Street knows that. You can say whatever you want about Michigan, but the quality of the student at Cornell is better....period. Everyone at Cornell could get into Michigan and it is certainly not the other way around..if you don't know this by now..you better start doing some research.</p>
<p>you should not turn down an ivy for michigan....if you get into an ivy.you should go...(by ivy i also mean stanford, MIT, etc.)</p>
<p>don't listen to thes epeople on the board who have not been through the recruiting process...i have been through both summer and full-time recruiting and at these Superdays for the banks...the schools that are the most respresented are harvard, wharton, cornell, northwestern - ask anyone who has been to a superday and they will tell you the same thing.. In my analyst class for next year there are 5 cornell kids and one michigan kid and I am working at a top bank</p>
<p>for ibanking stern and harvard are about equal to Cornell...i am only referring to finance jobs...not sure about other types of fields..but besides wharton, Cornell places more ibankers on the street than any school ..you can look that up on google and verify it.</p>
<p>I agree that an ivy is an ivy, but it is pretty tough to get into Ross. you would be wrong to say everyone from Cornell can make it into Ross, I know quite a few dumb kids that got in. I would say it is much tougher to get into Ross than it is Cornell. If you are a preferred admit to Ross, definetely attend. AEM might be a great school, but I never heard about it before considering it makes so many i-bankers, nor do I have friends that are as bullish applying to Cornell business as they are for schools like Stern, Wharton, Haas. Well again, I am only a senior in high school, so I will find out what it is really like next year.</p>
<p>ha...ur telling me that Ross is harder to get into than Cornell..i have never met less knowledgeable people on a site than CC</p>
<p>Well, I guess today is your lucky day. don't make Cornell into Harvard when it clearly is not. It is not most difficult task to get into Cornell. you are clearly very biased as you are attending or have attended Cornell. First go find out what it takes to get into Ross.</p>
<p>I found this on job placement stats:</p>
<p>Ross: <a href="http://www.bus.umich.edu/pdf/EmploymentProfile2005.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.bus.umich.edu/pdf/EmploymentProfile2005.pdf</a>
Cornell AEM: <a href="http://aem.cornell.edu/undergrad/careers.htm%5B/url%5D">http://aem.cornell.edu/undergrad/careers.htm</a></p>
<p>Unfortunately, Cornell did not provide a detailed breakdown. Hope this helped</p>
<p>As an alum of both schools I would recommend the OP look at fit. Cornell is a great university...so is Michigan. They are probably two of the most underrated school on CC. </p>
<p>Sports, I am not sure who told you that Ross is easier to get into than Cornell. The average Ross student maintains an average GPA of 3.6 for 2 years at Michigan while taking required courses such as Calc I, Clac II, Statistics, Econ I, Econ II and Accounting. In other words, only the top 25% of Michigan students really have a shot of getting into Ross. You do realize that the top 25% of Michigan students graduated from high school with 4.0 unweighed GPAs, top 1% class ranks and SAT socres that range between 1410 and 1600? </p>
<p>And I am also not sure how you figure that more AEM students get IBanking jobs than Ross students. Cornell does not list the destination of its students, but Ross does. </p>
<p>In a class of 300 or so students, 45 got jobs with top IBs such as Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, Credit Suisse and UBS.</p>
<p>And in terms of starting Salaries, Ross is slightly higher than Cornell AEM.</p>
<p>Cornell all the way they have more recruitment and almost guarnateed placement plus they now have links to work for Nike as there lastest recruiter!!</p>
<p>credit suisse and ubs are not consdidred the upper echelon of the BB. How about their placement at MS, GS, Citigroup, JPM, Merrill, and Lehman - I guarantee you they are not as heavily recruited as they are at Cornell or any of the other ivies- they may get two or three kdis in the each of those firms a year, but Cornell gets significantly more.</p>
<p>by no means am I putting down Umich..my sister goes there, and I was actually going to go there until I got into Cornell - it is an increcibly underrated school - but it is still not an ivy and the student body as a whole at Cornell is definitely a little brighter...all of my friends in AEM got into Umich as well and I am pretty sure its not the other way around</p>