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Ten percent of respondents admitted to having cheated on an exam, and 17 percent said they had cheated on a paper or a take-home assignment.
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Recruited athletes were even more likely to admit to cheating20 percent admitted to cheating on an exam, compared to 9 percent of students who were not recruited to play a varsity sport at Harvard.
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<p>No other country gives as much weight to sports in college admissions.</p>
I never knew that … I guess that explains what everyone in the US wants to leave to US for college … and why no one from other countries wants to come to US schools (especially those sport crazes Ivy league schools with 30+ varsity sports).</p>
<p>Men were also noted as being twice as likely to report cheating on an exam, and one and a half times as likely to report cheating on a paper or take home assignment.</p>
<p>The second page of the article indicates that 12% of the frosh are recruited athletes, although 69% were athletes in high school. 33% of the recruited athletes had calculus BC as the highest level of math in high school, versus 43% of the non-athletes. 32% intend to concentrate on economics, versus 15% of the non-athletes.</p>
<p>Other parts of the series also have tidbits:</p>
<p>[Freshman</a> Survey Part II: An Uncommon App | News | The Harvard Crimson](<a href=“http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2013/9/4/freshman-survey-admissions-aid/]Freshman”>Freshman Survey Part II: An Uncommon App | News | The Harvard Crimson) indicates that only 15% came from lower income families (<$40,000/year) and another 15% came from middle to upper-middle income families ($40,000-$80,000/year). At the other end, 14% came from clear top 1% families (>$500,000/year) and another 15% came from those at the threshold of the top 1% ($250,000-$500,000/year). 60% report getting financial aid. Average number of schools applied to was 6.57, with 4.68 acceptances; Harvard was the first choice for 81%. Recruited athletes had slightly lower stats (HS GPA 3.88 versus 3.94, SAT 2082 versus 2255).</p>
<p>ucb, my D, who works in consulting, did not know what consulting was when she entered college, so would not have listed it as a job goal. So it is not surprising that so few listed it on the survey!</p>
<p>It is worth considering that recruited athletes at H definitely include sailors (I knew one), and probably squash and tennis players, as well as golfers.</p>
<p>I’m sure that if one looked at the stats of the football, hockey, and basketball players they would be considerably lower. (Although still considerably higher than at big-state-u-with-huge-football-team.)</p>
<p>But so what? We’ve been over this a zillion times.</p>
<p>Oh this breaking news must be along the lines of …</p>
<p>“Girls who attended Catholic high schools admit to have engaged in sexual activities without the knowledge of their parents more often than students from public schools!”</p>
<p>Now that we know, the world must be a better place. Yawn!</p>
<p>Consolation, Ivy athletes’ stats may be lower than other Ivy students’, but they’re still pretty darn good. The Ivies actually want their athletes to be good students first. I know a guy who was ranked #1 nationally in his sport (a very Ivy sport at that) and in the top 15 worldwide. His grades were in the B/B+ range at an academically respected prep/high school, and his SATs were good (though not very good/great.) Harvard told him politely not to apply. He was rejected by Princeton and Yale. The kid ended up at a good LAC though nowhere near Ivy caliber in reputation. </p>
<p>His sister was ranked much, much lower in same sport. Had the grades and SATs though. Accepted at Harvard, Yale and Princeton. Picked the latter. </p>
<p>Niece was a straight A student and a hot basketball player. Princeton only took her seriously as a contender when she retook her SATs, raising her score by an amount that Princeton specified. Her SATs weren’t bad, by the way.</p>
<p>However, isn’t it the case that there are fewer female athletes than male athletes in most sports, so the competition to get to the recruitable level (or even just the level where the sport is a standout EC versus a more ordinary EC) is significantly more difficult for male athletes?</p>
<p>Atomom, I think you got EXACTLY what my post suggested. A finding that actually does NOT say anything about the Catholic girls but sounds alarmingly explosive. In so many words, the type of story titles that belong on the cover of the new AOL/HuffPo.</p>
<p>I was talking with a mother of a recruited athlete at Yale. There are definitely minimum SAT scores and GPAs for recruited athletes. According to the mother of this girl, The coach let her daughter know know what the scores were. In addition, he said, “don’t get pregnant, do drugs or commit a crime between now and the start of school.”</p>
<p>Beliavsky arrives every few days and drops a hand grenade into the room. And every starts squabbling. C’mon folks. Classic flame action here. Check out Belia’s posting history. It’s like a highlight reel from the National Enquirer or the Weekly World News “PUTIN WILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT OF U.S. in 2016!” or “Megan Fox is a Man”</p>
<p>I think he/she trawls around for inflammatory subjects (and carefully crafts his post titles in the most titillating manner as well) to get people to bite. We’re better off watching TMZ or something to find out the latest Miley or Lindsay gossip…</p>