<p>As thumper1 pointed out, the survey was about how these students behaved in HIGH SCHOOL, not while they were at Harvard! If you think that if this same survey was given to students entering their state flagship school the results would be different, then you are na</p>
<p>No , but it matters an awful lot that we are graduating so many ethically challenged from @elites, when we seem to use this as a CV for leaders. </p>
<p>That said, one would think a character test could easily be developed to assist in the matter of screening out the sociopaths. God knows we lean heavily enough on standardized testing already. </p>
<p>Heck, at worst the test prep alone would teach some ethics to this group. ;)</p>
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<p>So, are all of our leaders “ethically challenged” sociopaths? 75%, 50%, 10%, 1% or less? Are they political leaders, business magnates, or military commanders? Are there more “ethically challenged” sociopathic leaders from the elites, or do more graduate (or not) from the hoi polloi of non-elite colleges. Please provide meaningful, verifiable facts, not your opinion.</p>
<p>Lastly, do you identify “ethically challenged” sociopathic leaders by whether you agree or disagree with their politics?</p>
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“between 75 and 98 percent of college students surveyed each year report having cheated in high school.”
[ENGR110/210:</a> Perspectives in Assistive Technology - Academic Cheating Fact Sheet](<a href=“http://www.stanford.edu/class/engr110/cheating.html]ENGR110/210:”>ENGR110/210: Perspectives in Assistive Technology - Academic Cheating Fact Sheet)
So it appears the incidence of cheating is lower among Harvard students.</p>
<p>searchingforinfo, the link you posted in #44 reproduces this list from an ETS site, written in 1999:[Cheating</a> Fact Sheet - RESEARCH CENTER - Cheating Is A Personal Foul](<a href=“http://www.glass-castle.com/clients/www-nocheating-org/adcouncil/research/cheatingfactsheet.html]Cheating”>Cheating Fact Sheet - RESEARCH CENTER - Cheating Is A Personal Foul). The list offers few cites to check the accuracy of the assertions, so it’s difficult to gauge its accuracy.</p>
<p>As 1999 predates NCLB, I would not assume this year’s high school seniors are just the same as the seniors of 1999 (who are now 32 years old.) They could be, but the crash of 2008 has made financing a college education much more difficult for most–and it has made scholarships more attractive.</p>
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<p>We don’t know the exact percentage, of course, but we do know they tend to congregate in certain occupations. Here is one such study:</p>
<p>[Wise</a> Up Journal - » LA Times - Study shows politicians share personality traits with psychopaths *](<a href=“http://www.wiseupjournal.com/?p=961]Wise”>http://www.wiseupjournal.com/?p=961) </p>
<p>You may also like a study done at the University of Queensland called “Psychopathy, Machiavellianism, Risk-Taking and Career Preferences” by Kinner, Mealey, and Slaughter.</p>
<p>I have been using it for personal “risk management” for years. Works beautiful.</p>
<p>Hat. Not really. I don’t identify with any particular political group in th US. I’m one of those socially liberal fiscally conservative types who keeps wondering what happened to the country. </p>
<p>However, I do believe the current corrupt oligarchical practices are related to an ethical relativism I find rather troubling among our political and corporate leaders on both sides of the proverbial aisle.</p>
<p>[The</a> Pros to Being a Psychopath | Science & Nature | Smithsonian Magazine](<a href=“http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/The-Pros-to-Being-a-Psychopath-176019901.html]The”>http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/The-Pros-to-Being-a-Psychopath-176019901.html) :)</p>
<p>According to this article in Bloomberg, the incidence of cheating is below avg among Harvard students:
[Welcome</a> to Harvard, Cheaters of 2017 - Bloomberg](<a href=“Bloomberg - Are you a robot?”>Bloomberg - Are you a robot?)
"In a survey of the incoming class done by the Harvard Crimson newspaper, 10 percent of respondents said they had cheated on an exam before arriving on campus. Seventeen percent admitted to cheating on a take-home assignment or paper, and 42 percent confessed to having done so on a problem set or homework assignment…</p>
<p>A New York Times article last year…highlighted the prevalence of high-school cheating: Michael Josephson, the president of the Josephson Institute, which researches ethics in society, said a 2010 survey of 40,000 high-school students found that 59 percent had cheated on a test during the previous year, with one in three admitting they had used the Internet to plagiarize – and one in four admitting they had lied on the survey itself.
In a subsequent Josephson survey of 23,000 high school students, taken in 2012, the proportion of admitted cheaters dropped, with 51 percent of students admitting to having cheated on an exam the previous year. By another estimate, cited in a New York Magazine article by Robert Kolker, almost 85 percent of students have cheated in some capacity by the time they graduate high school.</p>
<p>Yee and Kolker’s articles both focused on cheating at another school famed for overachievers, New Yorks Stuyvesant High School, where more than 60 students were implicated in a cheating scandal during city and state standardized testing in the spring of 2012."</p>
<p>So you’re telling us that Harvard students are not the best at everything?</p>