Reflections on our school visits this fall

Having the opportunity to read the experiences of others through this process has been so helpful for our family. Now that all of the visits are complete for my daughter this admission season, I thought I would share some of my thoughts after visiting quite a few schools over the last few months.

A little about her and our family and what led us to choose the list of schools we visited: We are from California and our older son went through this process in a more limited way last year. He wasn’t interested in looking at schools outside of CA and his academic/extracurricular profile was solid but not quite as strong as his sister’s is. That led us to feeling like we were starting from scratch this year, since our daughter was eager to explore schools on the East Coast in addition to adding a CA school (Cate) that we didn’t visit with our son. While my husband and I prefer the idea of a small school, my daughter felt drawn to some of the bigger ones, which explains the wide variation in school size on our visit list. We started from a very long list of options to pare it down based on a combination of impressions from reading this site, interactions with representatives at admissions fairs in our area, and overall academic reputation. Though I tried to persuade her to consider some of the all-girls options, my daughter flatly refused to visit any school that isn’t co-ed. My list below is in alphabetical order. We found that we liked virtually all of the schools in their own way - and are trying to keep that open mindset going into March 10. She will be applying to all but one of the list below.

Cate School: Our family really liked the extended visit format, which included interviewing student, then parents, campus tour, chapel featuring a student speaker (bonus points for inviting the whole family to this), class visit (student only), then an invitation for our family to stay on campus for lunch, which we did. Any time we were in the admissions reception area, there were many current students there to answer any questions we had. On the tour we learned that all freshman girls have doubles, as do some sophomore girls. The rest of the students have singles. Outdoor space (balcony or patio) for each dorm room is a plus, and a wonderful way to take advantage of the beautiful climate. Overall, the facilities were adequate but certainly not as impressive as we have seen at other schools. My husband and I had split opinions on this: he thought there weren’t investing enough in the facilities (e.g. tired science classrooms), while I was appreciative of the fact that everything was just fine but not over the top (not ostentatious). We were disappointed that even though my daughter had indicated a special interest in visual art on her form, we were not shown any art-related facilities on the tour and our guide didn’t seem very knowledgeable in this area. My daughter loved the fact that there is no dress code. Students seemed very happy, and reported a very reasonable workload. There are homework limits for each class, and the block schedule helps with overall workload management. Intentional focus on collaborative, rather than competitive, atmosphere.

Choate Rosemary Hall: Choate was the first large-ish school we visited, and my initial impression walking up to admissions was that it felt more like a college than a high school. However, our tour guide turned everything around for me. She was a great match for my daughter’s interests (I’d like to think that was intentional), opting to skip the athletics facility entirely for an in-depth tour of the arts facilities. She was able to put our mind at ease about the small fish, big pond types of concerns, clearly loving the place and environment and articulating the warmth and support she felt from her community there. There was talk from her and the AO about intentionality about “just right” size at Choate: big enough to offer hundreds of classes and world class facilities yet small enough to offer a sense of community. We liked that our daughter would be the beneficiary of the new facility that is opening before next school year able to seat the entire student body in one space. My daughter loved the vibe at Choate - it resonated with my Cali girl. The AO spoke about the fact that they have been deliberately building the CA population there to be a critical mass. Of particular interest to my daughter was the option to do an arts concentration. My husband and I would prefer that there was at least one seated meal per week (we like the idea of requiring teenagers to make polite conversation at a meal every now and then), but this was not a problem at all for my daughter.

Deerfield Academy: Deerfield was absolutely lovely, but in hindsight I should have trusted my initial instinct that this school appealed to me much more than my daughter. She resonates most with progressive, friendly, and casual, which aren’t typically words used to describe Deerfield. Our tour guide was excellent at Deerfield, clearly loving her experience. I did note on the tour that the students and faculty we passed all had their heads down hurrying from one place to another - no smiles or hellos to us or each other, from what we we observed. In their defense, it was pouring down rain the day we were there. Our AO, when asked about collaborative vs competitive, answered “competitive”. All signs indicated that this was not a match for our daughter, though clearly it can be and is a very good match for different kids. [If it is not obvious already, this is the school that my daughter decided not to apply to.]

Episcopal High School: Similar to Cate, we appreciated the extended visit opportunity at Episcopal. In addition to the tour/interview, my daughter had the chance to attend a class and join her student host for lunch. The Washington D.C. program at Episcopal is very appealing to my daughter and to us, as is the proximity to the kinds of experiences a city can offer. Proximity to a major airport is appealing to us as parents. Even though Episcopal has maintained traditions including seated meals and chapel services (neutral for my daughter and a plus for us as parents), we found the overall feel to be warm, welcoming and comfortable. We came away with the feeling that there was plenty of adult support for the students and that the students were happy. Though my daughter would prefer no dress code, she felt like the dress code at Episcopal was relaxed enough that it wouldn’t be a negative for her. We all liked that it is 100% boarding. Some concern about lack of diversity at Episcopal relative to many other places we visited.

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Mercersburg Academy: Our visit to Mercersburg felt different that many of the other visits because we were the only family there the day we visited (on a day in the middle of the week early-ish in the season). Because of this, it felt very personal and not like we were in an admissions assembly line! We actually had two tour guides - one experienced and one in training- which was a good way for us to get several student perspectives as we walked around campus. The facilities are very impressive. We did have a concern about the emphasis on athletic facilities; though we appreciate their quality, we worry that Mercersburg may be more focused on athletics than our non-athletic daughter may prefer. The friendliness and warmth of the students and adults was clear - we liked the sense of community here. Seated meals and reasonably casual dress code are both similar to Episcopal. All of us were struck by how remote Mercersburg seemed; while it was serene and beautiful, it would be a very significant change for our daughter, who has always lived in or near a big city.

Middlesex School: We liked the location of Middlesex: close enough to Boston to make transportation and interesting excursions easy, yet far enough to feel peaceful and like a boarding school, if that makes sense. The first thing that struck me (in a positive way) when we got to Middlesex was that the room where the prospective students and their families waited for tours and interviews was also a common room used by students during free periods. A school that isn’t afraid to let prospective families have an unfiltered observation of their current students gets bonus point in my book. The tour here was a bit odd compared to the others - we were paired with another family, which made things a little awkward. We all commented on how we liked our talk (interview) with the AO; she was able to articulate a compelling case for Middlesex in terms of collaboration, warmth, support, and community. Our daughter didn’t feel the “vibe” as strongly here as at other places, but it was a little hard to articulate why. Possibly the multi-family tour.

Phillips Academy Andover: Andover is big - there is definitely a different feel at Andover/Exeter compared to the other places we visited. This was the only place where my daughter was placed with a male tour guide, which I think we all thought was ok from a progressive viewpoint, but ended up not being a very good match for our daughter’s interests. We got a math/science/robotics boy touring our arts/creative writing daughter. That said, the overall feel of the place resonated with my daughter. She liked the energy, the casual dress code, the sense of opportunity. Her AO was warm, encouraging, and set our mind at ease about how they build communities within the larger community to help address some of the downsides of larger student body.

Phillips Exeter Academy: We toured Exeter the day after Andover, so had that as a reference point. The experience in the Admissions Office at Exeter was fantastic; the Admissions Director was running a Q&A for parents while the students were in their interviews. We appreciated this extra effort by the leadership of the Admissions Office from a school that arguably doesn’t need to make an extra effort. Our tour guides were happy, warm, and excellent ambassadors of the school. They paid attention to my daughter’s interest in the arts, which we noted and appreciated. It was one of our tour guide’s birthday, and something that really struck me while we were out walking on our tour was that we had three different people stop and wish our guide a happy birthday while we were walking with her. I was absolutely astonished that in a school this large, this young lady was known well enough to have that many people we randomly ran into know her, acknowledge her, and then know it was her birthday! My daughter likes the idea of Harkness, and came away really excited about Exeter.

St. Andrew’s School (DE): Our visit to St. Andrew’s was a bit of a study in contrasts. Like Mercersburg, we were the only family there that day at that time. While my husband and I liked the traditional feel of the main buildings, my daughter did not. I think she equates traditional architecture to stiff and formal atmosphere, which we are working to convince her isn’t really the same thing. Our tour guide was energetic, warm, and extremely responsive to our interests. We were blown away by the arts area, and even got to say hello to an art teacher, which my daughter liked. Each adult we bumped into on our tour said hello to our tour guide and to us, which speaks to the strength of the community. The AO that we interacted with after the tour brought us back to a more proper/formal feeling. My husband and I both left St. Andrew’s wanting to go to school there; my daughter wasn’t quite as enthusiastic, but does still want to leave it on her list. We all liked the 100% boarding.

Stevenson School: Our visit to Stevenson was a bit different than some of the others because it was an Open House + interview rather than a standard tour/interview on a weekday. The Head of School is an impressive speaker, and engaged us with his words about this being a place where kids come and are accepted and welcomed as they are and each is encouraged to grow as an individual. Kids we engaged with were great ambassadors for the school, seeming happy and not academically overwhelmed. Our daughter had the opportunity to tailor the visit to her interests since it was an Open House. Beautiful campus and facilities - overall facilities are newer than what we saw at Cate. CA schools definitely integrate outdoor space more than East Coast schools are able to.

Lots of wonderful schools out there!

I believe our son sat at every meal at Choate; there were enough chairs for everyone. :wink:
Do they still do a weekly community lunch? I think they were trying to do away with that as most of the kids hated it. Each school has its own peculiarities in regard to meals. I think the kids Choate attracts are not interested in formal or community meals.

@ChoatieMom LOL.
No, there isn’t a weekly community lunch. And you are right about the formal/community meals - my daughter isn’t very interested in that either. She loved pretty much everything about Choate.

Most kids strongly dislike formal dinners and community lunches with assigned seating.

But schools that still have them seem to have much closer knit, less “cliquey” communities precisely because those meals provide a valuable opportunity for students to get to know faculty and kids in other grades and with other interests.

Did you visit the Arts Center at Mercersburg? My daughter is a serious dancer and is very excited about their arts program! She will likely participate in a sport or two wherever she attends, but not at a very competitive level.

I love the idea of the formal dinners and seated lunches because I feel like in addition to building community they provide another opportunity for faculty to check in on the kids and know what is going on!

The Mercersburg Arts center is spectacular!

@busymommyof4 Yes, we loved the Arts Center at Mercersburg! They have everything she could want there.

As far as the meals go, I totally understand that kids, if asked, prefer not to have meals with assigned seats and a faculty member at the table. But kids prefer many things that may necessarily be best for them. :wink: Since we prioritize family dinners at home, we like the idea of our daughter having the equivalent of that experience every now and then (or more often) at school. I also agree that it seems like a great way to have your child more known by the faculty outside of the academic setting. This isn’t a showstopper for us, though.

@westcoastmom987 I might be able to connect you with parents who have one kid at Choate and another at Thacher in case you want to get their perspective. PM me if you do… Though, if I recall correctly, your daughter might be allergic to horses?

Hi @westcoastmam987 ! If you have any questions about Mercersburg I would be happy to answer them for you! My son is in 9th grade there and he loves it! We are also close friends with 4 other students (3 girls, 1 boy - 2 of the girls are in 10th grade) who also currently attend.

I thought it was interesting that you thought Mercersburg came across as too sports oriented, as a friend’s daughter chose not to apply because she thought the sports were not competitive enough for her! It does vary by sport, obviously swimming is big for them and they are strong in baseball, track and field and I think girls tennis. Two of the girls we know are not into sports, and they have always chosen dance, theater or community service as their PGA’s (performance group activity.) Students must do a PGA every term, but it does not have to be a sport.

I do think it’s rural location is a turn off to some applicants, although the location does not bother my son at all. Students who prefer to live close to a large city may find it hard to adjust there. I kind of feel that the location helps attract the kinds of students who will do well in that setting, and those who really want to be there. But it is certainly not for everyone.

Last night I watched the live stream of the candelight service from the chapel. It is not a required event for students, but they hold 2 services and they were packed. My son went and really enjoyed it! The Mercersburg chorus joined the school orchestra in beautiful Christmas carols that sounded amazing, even through the speakers of my laptop! During the last reading of the evening, I could hear some other students start to join in with the reader. It was hard to tell exactly what was happening at the time - I could hear other voices but they weren’t necessarily saying the same words as the speaker. When I asked my son later what was going on, he said that students in the audience began reciting the scripture in different languages! I don’t know if that is an annual tradition or what - but it did not seem to come as a surprise to the reader or anyone else, so my guess is that it is planned and has gone on before. Once I realized what what it was, I thought it was a nice way to end the service.

@westcoastmom987 I’m sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but it was probably not the tour guide’s birthday at Exeter. That’s a running joke there and students wish tour guides happy birthday.

When we went on tours last year we did not tour Exeter, but we toured several others. The “happy birthday” wishes to our tour guides happened at 2 of the schools we toured, so it appears to be a trend ;:wink:

Mercersburg location also makes it harder for the school to recruit faculty and students of color. It is too bad, because it really is a great school. We loved the campus.

Very nice two-part post @westcoastmom987. I’m sure others will find it useful as they embark on their own admissions adventures. I know I would have loved to stumble upon it when my child was still an applicant.

@MAandMEmom and @dramakid2 thanks for setting me straight on the birthday thing. We must be gullible because we bought the birthday wishes for our tour guide at Exeter hook, line, and sinker. I don’t mind being part of a joke, but it feels a little disingenuous that our tour guide didn’t let us in on it when we were wishing her happy birthday and thanking her for touring us on her birthday. Can’t decide if that negatively influences my feelings about the school - will have to mull that over some more if my daughter is accepted.

@CaliMex You are right about the horse allergy. That is why Thacher wasn’t on our list. If she gets accepted to Choate, I would be very interested in connecting with current parents to get their perspective!

I understand your feelings @westcoastmom987 , I actually find the inside joke to be rude to prospective families. When it happened at the first school, I wished the tour guide a happy birthday and he explained that it was not his birthday and just something students say to tour guides. When it happened at the second school, I didn’t say anything, nor did the tour guide offer an explanation.

In the end both schools stayed on our list and did not change our overall view of them. But I can understand why you may feel duped by your tour guide since she went along with it. After application season is over and decisions have been sent out, it may be worthwhile to send feedback to the admissions office about your experience.

Yes, 2 years ago our tour guide at Berkshire got the “happy birthday” treatment. He seemed unusually embarrassed but we had no idea what was going on until DS let us in on what seems to be a BS staple. (At his school they’ve been told not to do it.)

The “happy birthday” happened on our tour also probably at Mercersburg or maybe at Berkshire too, and the guide offered us the explanation. Once we heard explanation, we did not pay attention to happy birthdays.
The tour guides at Mercersburg happened to wear the same blue oxford vineyard vines shirts and they were more embarrassed by that than the happy birthdays. They explained that it was not a dress code. :slight_smile:

Happy story for Happy Birthday: Kiddo is a tour guide and had the “Happy Birthday” treatment one day while guiding a prospective family around campus. Kiddo explained that it was a joke and that, in fact, the actual birthday was a couple of weeks before. The student sent a Happy Belated Birthday card to Golfiddo c/o of the school! :">