Regents Set to Raise Tuition in California by 32 Percent

<p>^^ I assume that it’s in the category of ‘food costs for living off campus’. For on-campus living the food costs are generally bundled in with housing as housing/dining.</p>

<p>OK…I can kind of see that. But, then why is there 2 costs for those who live at home?</p>

<p>Housing & utilities… 14,384…7,542… …2,472
Food… 924…2,494… …1,806</p>

<p>Surely, when you live at home, it doesn’t cost about $4200 per year to feed you (at home and elsewhere) and pay your “part” of the utilities.</p>

<p>I find it hard to believe that kids who live at home spend twice as much on “off-campus” food than those who live on campus.</p>

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<p>Stimulus package of 2009 does include much more money for Direct Student Loans (DOE), and new to this year, FFEL’s Stafford and PLUS Loans (private guaranteed student loans from banks.) Banks are not able to borrow or obtain funds for FFEL, consequently your Government/taxpayer/foreign entities, are picking up the funding and the guarantee.</p>

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<p>I agree. The students are barking at the wrong people. The Regents and the university president can only play the cards that are dealt them. They can’t think up money out of thin air. If the students really want reform and proper funding for the UCs it will have to come from the legislature and the governor.</p>

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<p>I went and looked at the chart and basically is states - </p>

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<li>Living on campus: Housing: 14,384 - Food: 924</li>
<li>Living off campus: Housing: 7,542 - Food: 2,494</li>
<li>Living at home: Housing: 2,472 - Food: 1,806</li>
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<p>So I assume they mean -

  • Living on campus: Housing/Dining: 14,384 - Food outside of dining plan: 924
  • Living off campus: Housing (no food): 7,542 - Food (all food): 2,494
  • Living at home: Housing (effective cost of house space for the student): 2,472 - Food (entire cost of food at home): 1,806</p>

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Or from themselves in the form of increased fees. If they have time to protest they have time to get a job and contribute some more for themselves. They could also try to employ their brains more productively than throwing trash, pulling fire alarms, blockading entrances, causing classes to cancel, etc. and perform some studies and make some suggestions and productive plans that could be presented that might reasonably help mitigate some of the budget issues. After all, they’re supposed to be intelligent people and they might actually have some productive ideas if they focused in that direction. All they’re doing now is essentially begging for more from the hands that already feed them and being disruptive like 2 year olds throwing tantrums.</p>

<p>^There are not a lot of jobs around. CA has 12.5% of unemployment rate.</p>

<p>California has been living beyond its means for awhile now. Pulling back is painful and I see no end of it for awhile.</p>

<p>Hope they get a good strategic budget to help the UCs and CSUs grow in the future but the pain is here to stay for awhile in Calif and quite a few other states.</p>

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<p>I agree that what the students are doing is very stupid and irresponsible, but it is also misplaced. The Regents can’t fix the financial problem no matter how much they might like to. If the students want more money they are going to have to go make their case to the sources of the money.</p>

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<p>By this I assume you mean their grandparents, many of who are paying real estate tax based on their home’s value in the late 70’s.</p>

<p>uc dad…</p>

<p>Yeah, I guess so. I just think it’s odd to put such an amount for living at home (house space for the student ). I’ve got a bunch of empty rooms upstairs now (actually an entire empty floor), it’s not like I can rent those spaces out. LOL :)</p>

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But it’s not that difficult for a student to get a job either on-campus or in the immediate surrounding area. They can always check for employment at the dining halls.</p>

<p>There are relatively few older homeowners who are still deeply benefitting from Prop 13 roll backs. And, many of those who are benefitting, could not afford to stay in their homes if they had to pay property taxes based on an ever-changing value on paper. When Prop 13 passed, many homeowners (including my parents), were getting to the point that they couldn’t afford to pay their property taxes. They were seeing their property taxes double and triple when incomes were not very high. My dad wasn’t even earning $12k per year, but his property taxes rose to over $1300 per year in the early 70s. And, my parents weren’t alone. No wonder there was a revolt.</p>

<p>There are so many more homeowners who have purchased their homes within the last 30 years who are paying 1.25% - 2% in property taxes. The problem isn’t property taxes. The problem is that for too long Calif has been spending money on things that it cannot afford.</p>

<p>But it’s not that difficult for a student to get a job either on-campus or in the immediate surrounding area. They can always check for employment at the dining halls.</p>

<p>I have to disagree…sorry dad… :)</p>

<p>I think (I could be wrong) many/most of the campus jobs are dedicated to the WS kids. </p>

<p>And, since so many Calif breadwinners have been losing jobs for over a year, many of them have had to grab the off-campus kinds of jobs that typically college kids could get.</p>

<p>^^ I’ve heard differently and my D’s, who aren’t WS, haven’t had any problems finding on-campus jobs (and they weren’t dining services jobs). My UCLA D also said that there seems to be of off-campus jobs to be had as well but I haven’t checked on that. The thing is, most of the people living in the area of UCLA (Westwood, Bel Air, Brentwood, Beverly Hills) probably aren’t looking for the lower end jobs typically held by students even if unemployed.</p>

<p>I’ve heard that it’s almost always not difficult to get a job at the various dining services but I could be wrong. This makes it appear that the dining services jobs aren’t limited to (but does include) WS -
<a href=“http://map.ais.ucla.edu/portal/site/UCLA/menuitem.789d0eb6c76e7ef0d66b02ddf848344a/?vgnextoid=e942064a9a7d1010VgnVCM1000008f8443a4RCRD[/url]”>http://map.ais.ucla.edu/portal/site/UCLA/menuitem.789d0eb6c76e7ef0d66b02ddf848344a/?vgnextoid=e942064a9a7d1010VgnVCM1000008f8443a4RCRD&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>some schools don’t separate out the housing and dining expenses, bc they give u a different rate on meal plans depending on how big of a meal plan you get (ie one person might pay $5/meal, another $2.50), so it’s hard to say what exactly is for room vs. board</p>

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<p>Californians are sick of paying taxes.</p>

<p>[Poll:</a> Voters skeptical of state reform proposals – latimes.com](<a href=“http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-poll9-2009nov09,0,1745207.story]Poll:”>Poll: Voters skeptical of state reform proposals)</p>

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<p>I agree with Post #73. A lot of students had trouble finding jobs this summer, very few minimum wage jobs are available on/off campus.</p>

<p>It’s been suggested many times that those who truly can’t afford their property tax could get a waiver if Prop 13 were repealed. In every other state, people find a way to afford their taxes or move somewhere they can afford.</p>

<p>But Californians won’t go for it. They thought they could have it all and now they’re getting nothing–businesses are leaving the State in droves, residential property values are down and more people are leaving then coming, unemployment is high, commercial real estate is tanking, infrastructure is falling apart, no one with a brain wants to govern…</p>

<p>^^ I assume there are more campus jobs available during the school year since the campus is more filled. There seem to be jobs available or at least positions advertised. I haven’t tried to get any of these jobs so maybe they’re less available than they appear.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.bruinlink.ucla.edu/pdf/studentjobs_november09.pdf[/url]”>http://www.bruinlink.ucla.edu/pdf/studentjobs_november09.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Dad…</p>

<p>It may be true that around Westwood kids can find part-time jobs, since that local crowd isn’t likely to work at Pinkberry and In n Out …LOL… but I can tell you that around UCI many jobs that were typically help by high school and college kids are now held by desperate adults.</p>

<p>My OC nieces and nephews could not find summer jobs this year.</p>