<p>BTW- I had pretty much the same ECs and Stats as you and I got into Northwestern, Columbia, and Michigan out of high school and Brown, Dartmouth, Duke, and Harvard as a first year transfer (that's also why I bring up the transfer thing as a worst case scenario, you'll be amazed at what year of a good GPA brings). Things will work out.</p>
<p>You grades actually aren't that bad. I think it's the fact that you only have two AP grades that dropped you back. Don't worry, I believe Northwestern will accept you. The admission officers for the schools taht rejected you must have been smokin something because I have about the same stats as you..so I'm guessing I will porbably be rejected as well...thank god rice accepted me though. I was actually afriad I aimed too high for all of my prospective colleges. good luck to you :)</p>
<p>I'm sorry i had to come back again. I'm still in shock that they rejected you. Do you have the any idea way? Even the slightest idea? B/c one of friends who was rejected from Rice, now looking back on his essays, he thought he might have come down too arrogant. I'm not saying that's what you did but little things can be big warning signs. But damn, you had almosy perfect EC and your grades are not shabby at all. I mean sure your sat scores ain't in the 1500s but damn..it's high up there.</p>
<p>Don't worry, I'm sure you'll get into Tufts and Vasaar. omg...I'm in shock.</p>
<p>if my bestfriend got accepted to Brown, u will</p>
<p>lowermorelandmom,</p>
<p>I got those numbers from usnews Premium Online Edition, to which I subscribe. It gives you a lot more than just the free stuff, plus includes archives for magazine articles. I'm thinking it was 14.95 for one year, you sign up online (obviously) and log-in.</p>
<p>Personally I think it's worth that price.</p>
<p>bluedaisy- my school doesn't really offer APs for underclassmen, except for the ones in history i took. AP world i took as a two-year course from freshman and sophomore year, but that and AP U.S. (which I also took) were the only ones available through junior year except for one in math-- and i'm def not a math person. good luck to you too, i hope your luck's better than mine!</p>
<p>and as far as the arrogance thing goes, the topic of my essay was actually pretty much the opposite of it. my essay was actually pretty bold, but well-received by those who read it objectively. so as for the reason "why" they rejected me, my theory is that it's my grades, and that i'm a white, jewish female from connecticut... i'm paranoid because it's not like i can help any of those things... other than that, well, i don't know. not feelin the college love right now, haha</p>
<p>elizabeth- i heard from both penn and wes already bc i applied to penn EDI and wesleyan EDII. and brandeis was blue ribbon</p>
<p>Scorch,
"I was told by my GC it shouldn't matter, because my courses have been all honors and AP throughout high school and my school doesn't give out As easily, either."</p>
<p>Have your GC call and find out what it was. Is it possible that you sent in too many rec's, and the application was too packaged? Could your essays have come off as arrogant? The only other thing I can see is that your SAT II's were not, except for the 800, as good as they could have been. </p>
<p>Congrat's on your Maryland CP Scholars acceptance! I think that April will be kinder to you.</p>
<p>scorch</p>
<p>Honestly silly as it sounds I think part of it might actually be a little bit of bad luck right now. At this level of selectivity, it's hard to predict. If you looked at some threads from last year in April and May you'd be surprised at how many people get rejected at schools with lower selectivity and then get into higher selectivity schools. It's actually quite common and makes the whole thing unpredictable but should give you plenty of hope.</p>
<p>I am surprised at your results so far because I would call your combination 780 verbal and 800 writing scores something special, maybe not for HYP but at plenty of other schools. I think the best thing you can do now is not to blame yourself and to keep your head up. Don't look for what you did wrong on your applications because odds are you did nothing wrong, and you can't change anything anyway. I think you'll get good news in about a month. Keep us posted.</p>
<p>2331clk-
I actually disagree that there is nothing to be done. If Scorch's GC can ferret out if there was a problem (other then geography and a bad roll of the dice thus far), she could consider sending an update letter. If her app is sitting on someone's hover pile it might help.</p>
<p>What about numbers of kids from your school getting accepted at these places. Were these "hot schools" among your classmates?</p>
<p>penn was a hot school- there were many extremely qualified applicants who applied. the only one who got in was a legacy, and i was extremely surprised that the others were not admitted. out of my class of around 200, about 9 applied ED.</p>
<p>wesleyan is not a hot school by any means. the only person who got in recently was three years ago and she was a recruited athlete. out of 3 who applied last year, none got in, and no one besides me applied EDII or even EDI this year. and there's only two who are applying RD from my school.</p>
<p>ohio_mom, you're right, I didn't mean she should do nothing. But I was thinking first of all the GC would have to identify the problem which is very hard to do. How do you explain that grades are a little low if that even is the problem. If the problem or weakness is in fact identifiable then it should have been addressed from the start, once you send in your application that's supposed to be your best and (theoretically) final effort. So you'd have to be sure GC doesn't actually bring attention to some observed weakness at this point.</p>
<p>On the other hand I think it might be appropriate to keep the schools updated on any good news (awards, etc). Esp for a WL school.</p>
<p>I was thinking the GC could quiz Penn and Wes - could be useful for Scorch for her <em>other</em> schools, and for kids from her school for next year.</p>
<p>Penn and Wesleyan were definite reaches based on the stats of who was accepted this year at S's school. She should have gotten into Brandeis, and it seems that the school feels the same way. That and BU should be ins for her. Vassar and Barnard have very low non early accept rates. Vassar, particularly for women. They are going to be reaches.</p>
<p>My son got ED at Wesleyan and just got WL at Brandeis with Blue Ribbon App, so go figure. Since the Brandeis, Tufts & Trinity apps were already in we decided to see what the results were even though he is going to Wesleyan. At the time that we applied we weren't sure about Wes so the paperwork was already submitted. </p>
<p>His SATs were 630V, 730 M, 680 Writing, 700 US History, 710 Math IC.
ECs include over a three year period acting, directing, stage managing in 18 school theater productions; All County on Horn. Excellent recs. His essay dealt with a disability that he has had to overcome. I'm sure the essay and ED app helped and his interview went very well. GPA is 3.8 unweighted and I think around 4.3 weighted.</p>
<p>wait, you're not going to withdraw the tufts and trinity applications for regular decision, even though he got in ED?</p>
<p>Scorch has a point. It could jeopardize his Wesleyan ED admission if other RD apps aren't withdrawn. At the least, it's not fair to the other RD applicants.</p>
<p>Did you do Penn ED, Wesleyan EDII? Otherwise, there's no way you could've gotten results back already.</p>
<p>Yeah, exactly. If he knows he's not going to any of the schools he's waiting to hear from, I hate to say it but it's kind of not fair if he takes someone else's slot... even if you're curious, it's unethical. Also, it definitely stipulates on the ED binding agreement he signed that he will withdraw all other applications if accepted.</p>
<p>And yes, I did Penn EDI and Wes EDII.</p>
<p>I will talk to my son and we will withdraw the other apps. You're right because if he gets in and someone else got waitlisted it could mess someone else up.</p>