Rejected from Barnard ED - Any point in appealing?

OP- hugs to you. You sound fantastic and this must sting.

If you can let us know where else you have applied, and what exactly (besides being urban) appealed to you about Barnard, I bet we can come up a couple of colleges you could still apply to, might have that “zing” factor you are missing in your other colleges.

No college is perfect. I get loving Barnard (I loved it too when I visited a zillion years ago) but trust me- there are colleges out there you can fall in love with as well once you mourn the Barnard rejection and try to move on. And the best way to move on is to find something else to love!

Being a qualified and competitive candidate is the first step and I’ll bet there is a college out there which is a terrific fit for you where they will welcome you with open arms. Let us help you find that college!!!

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There is no appeal process.

I didn’t want to point it out, because I tried to be kind, but it seems you need blunt assessment in addition to kindness, so here it is; your application was rejected, not deferred.
You think you’re a perfect fit for them and they don’t think so.

We don’t know why.

They probably had 3 times the number of qualified applicants. Perhaps they were looking for an oboe player and you play the piano, or you’re a ballerina and they want a gymnast. Your achievements and the Oboe player’s achievements are equally strong, but institutional needs (what Barnard needs) mean that they take the oboe player.

There may also be a reason for it, such as a problem in your essay or a recommendation, since your GC was rather confident in either an admission or a deferral (if your GC was flat-out confident in an admission, they overshot: with universities that selective, no one is a shoo-in). The best thing you can do now is making sure the same problem doesn’t crush all other applications (beside flagship etc.) and have someone review your essays (some of us here can do that if you want an external review).

Your GC having connections will NOT change a rejection. It might have done something for the RD round if you’d been deferred and she may have been able to talk to someone so that they review your application with an eye for something specific, but in this case, it’s done.
(Thinking that an appeal +GC might work could show two things: great cluelessness or great entitlement; what you’re talking about is telling Barnard professionals that YOU know better than them who they want, and that your interest in them should trump their interest in you. I know that’s how you feel and it’s normal… but telling professionals will not be in your favor and will likely reinforce their feeling they were right. If you really, really like Barnard and want to try and transfer later on, don’t burn your bridges by insulting them with an appeal. Your GC may ask for an assessment, express that you hope to apply as a transfer later on, so what parts of your application should you especially work on?)

What kind of schools is this (rural, but private or public? Well-resourced or not)? Where do students typically go to college? What % go to 4-year colleges? Is it a “pipeline” school or are you among the first to apply to Barnard?
Where else have you applied, and what are your safeties?
What’s your budget and do you need Financial aid, merit aid, or nothing?

Also, there are quite a few women’s colleges located in a city: Bryn Mawr (Philly), Scripps (LA), Wellesley (Boston), Agnes Scott (Atlanta).
So okay they’re not RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE of the city but they’re not rural nor isolated. I assume you’ve applied already or are in the process of finishing your essays. Your #1 priority right now must be to have your application file checked by your GC to see if there’s a glaring problem and to improve your essays so that you have a shot there.
You may also want to consider ED2, so you have 2 weeks to figure out where and why.

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As a parent of a child who was deferred from what she thought was her dream college, I can understand how the OP feels. In my daughter’s situation she was so devastated (by a deferral!) that she stayed home from school for a day to grieve. She allowed herself 24 hours, then moved swiftly to plan B. As it turned out, a few late in the game college visits lead to another potential dream college. After careful consideration, she let go of college A and submitted an ED2 app to college B. She just finished an incredible four years there, and was supremely happy with her choice. So, @ehb0327, although you think Barnard is the only one for you, be open to other ideas. There are other fantastic schools. You will have great options to consider.

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In addition to what MYOS and others point out, the college is slammed right now with RD work. Next to no time for a chat. And since they do not allow appeals, no process for them (unlike a deferral.)

One likely issue is, not just the volume of applicants, but the fact other strong gals from your area applied. You can’t second guess what they offered, their value to the college, their records, their prep, their goals- and the institutional needs. This includes geo diversity, a balance of where students come from.

The college can’t take every great applicant. There isn’t space.

When anyone applies, anywhere, they should be aware this is much more than what an individual wants, what one thinks of her/his own record.

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If you are looking for LACs in a more urban environment, you might want to check out Macalester (Minneapolis-St Paul) and some of the Southern California schools (Claremont Consortium, especially all female Scripps; Redlands, Occidental College). Some of them are going to be located in dense suburbs than rather than what you might consider a true city. Simmons University is a women’s college in Boston might also be of interest.

Good luck!

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OP, as other commenters have said, this appeal plan is a non-starter. Honestly, I find it hard to believe that your GC is actually encouraging this. If you are that hell-bent on going to Barnard, your only option is to attend another school, knock it out of the park academically, and try to transfer into Barnard sophomore year.

We love the 5C (the Consortium) but Claremont is the opposite on Upper West Side in terms of the vibe, and one of the few complaints of the students there is how dead it feels. The other complaint is that LA is not as easy to get to as it looks from the map, despite the rail.
Having said that, the campus is beyond gorgeous, and if NYC is not an absolute requirement, perhaps Scripps would be worth considering.
If NYC is non-negotiable, have you considered Fordham, especially the mid-town campus ?

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Strongly second Macalester :slight_smile: - a traditional LAC at the heart of a terrific urban neighborhood and part of a thriving metropolis, it’d be a great ED2, too: apply Jan 1, hear by Jan 31.

Can you explain what were the most important criteria in selecting Barnard?
What other colleges did you apply to (EA, RD, Rolling)?
What’s your budget?

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Barnard will not entertain appeals. It would open the floodgates for every rejected applicant to request a second look. If Barnard is truly your first choice your GC can reach out and see what info she can glean from the admissions office. You could consider taking a gap year and reapplying next year or you could go to one of the schools you do get accepted to this year and then apply to transfer. However, there are no guarantees and it would be a good idea to take some time to process that you might never be accepted by Barnard.

Good luck!

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Other choices if you’re looking at women’s colleges that are outside large cities would be Wellesley and Bryn Mawr. Both are located in nice suburbs with easy access to major urban areas.

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Just saying. OP may want the bright lights/big city Barnard offers.
But if there was any confusion in the app, (Barnard, itself, vs NYC,) many colleges are sensitive to this. And rereading that she’s remote makes me wonder how tuned in the GC is.

If she needs
suggestions, it seems they should be very urban collages. Not just “close to.”

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Happy to provide suggestions- but OP has not been back to answer the questions “why Barnard”. I can’t imagine that the posters here could not come up with a robust list of “You might love these colleges”- but time’s awasting!

Confusion regarding my desire to be in NYC? I’m almost definitively sure that wasn’t conveyed through my essays or interviews. I’ve been to NYC a lot, I love the city, and that was what I told Barnard.

My living/school situation is a bit complicated so I haven’t seen my GC in person, but my graduating class is only 55 and I have been meeting continuously with my GC since June. And yes, you are correct, I really only want urban colleges. I don’t want anywhere rural or in the suburbs.

I did this above, but fairly vaguely, so here’s a clear list of things I want in a college. For reference, my stats are 32 ACT superscored and a 3.9 GPA in all IB courses. These stats are balanced out by my ECs, essay, and hook. Factors in bold are non-negotiable. Thank you for your help!

  • Urban
  • LAC (very much preferred)
  • Strong psychology program
  • Access to large hospitals in same city (I have medical needs that require specialists/occasional hospitalization)
  • Skiing, equestrian for club sports (not a must)
  • Anywhere in the US is fine, just prefer EC cities like NYC, DC, Boston
  • Can pay for anything less than 85k/yr w/o FA
  • Good student support services
  • Robust study abroad programs
  • Opportunities for internships
  • Clubs involving Queer activism, writing, reading, EMS, ASL, speech and debate (just one or two of these would be great)

Reiterating Macalester.

You might want to broaden your search to include schools very close to major city suburban LACs with great access to medical specialists) like the 5 C colleges, Bryn Mawr and Wellesley (all mentioned above).

Adding Haverford, Rhodes, Trinity (CT) and Trinity (TX), Simmons, Sarah Lawrence, U Richmond, Occidental, Reed.

I am not sure where you are on appealing your Barnard decision (clearly that won’t be entertained), but strongly encourage you to ask your GC to speak with the Barnard AO to find out the shortfalls in your app.

As a full pay student, please also consider applying to EDII if there are any other schools that you find appealing. Use that advantage.

Good luck

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I chose Barnard because it is an urban LAC in a city I love. I like the small community with access to a big city and a big university with many resources. They have a strong psych program which is my intended major. I would have access to the healthcare I need (I have a major chronic illness) because of the on-campus student services and hospitals in NYC. I like Barnard’s dance program and Columbia has an equestrian team. I want to study abroad in Europe and South Korea and Barnard has a good study abroad program for both countries. In terms of clubs at Barnard, the ones that I like relate to EMS, writing, reading, Queer activism, and ASL. Plus, I just really like their campus.

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Definitely check out Tufts!

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Not east coast but Chicago ticks lots of your boxes. Loyola would be a safety for you.

Tufts would be a good reach.

Case western in Cleveland would be a match.

Reed College in Portland, OR ticks many of your boxes. They even have their own ski cabin. Ski Cabin - Athletics, Fitness, & Outdoor Programs - Reed College

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