<p>rejected from berkeley. was surprised. but going to ucla… unless stanford magically accepts me…</p>
<p>Wait wait wait, I thought UCLA was the UC that was known to have all the shallow people…</p>
<p>I am in no way saying it is true, but you sure are adding to the stereotype DynamicStyle.</p>
<p>If you plan on arguing with me about how I am wrong about you, first think about this: You just literally judged the 100 or so kids at your school. And based on the way you talked about some of them, I highly doubt you know them as well as you claim you do (I personally would not want to get to know a person like you… perhaps that is why they seem so anti-social to you?)–In fact, you seem more like a person who would sabotage than help…</p>
<p>No need to be bitter. Be happy that you got into a world-class university!</p>
<p>Oops, got you mixed up with dejawu… But you two were pretty much claiming the same thing.</p>
<p>@ secretaznmanxz</p>
<p>First of all, I like your name XD</p>
<p>Second, like I said, my high school is pretty small. I’m only judging about 10 people or so who got into UCB. I have at least 3+ classes with these peers, hang out at lunch with some of them, and converse with all of them on AIM all the time. So, they know me pretty well, and I know them pretty well. In my opinion, all of them are fairly good kids, but their lack of concern for the world and ability to only understand the surface level of complex issues shocks me. I’m a pretty likeable person, but very opinionated hahaha.</p>
<p>Third, I try to help people with college admissions all the time, and I don’t believe in negative competition. I’ve helped many of my friends with what schools to apply to and their essays. What I simply want is for my most qualified peers to go to the best schools. Like I said, I was very happy for my two close friends and this one other very bright girl got into UC Berkeley. I’m always happy when my intellectual, creative peers succeed because they deserve it. It’s just that from an academic profile perspective, and a subjective analysis of how they think about life and social issues, I don’t think they merit a position at UCB.</p>
<p>Fourthly, I’m not bitter at all. I think LA>B. I’m just disappointed at UC Berkeley because some older people who I know went there are incredibly intellectual and always manage to get me thinking. The majority of people from my school who were accepted are in no way comparable to some of the other people I know who were accepted.</p>
<p>So yeah, I don’t know. Could you explain though why you feel like I’m shallow? Like, I don’t see how a pretty accurate critique of my peers who got into UCB makes me shallow. Like, I think you think that I’m being biased, and therefore, misrepresenting my peers. However, even while being opinionated, in terms of the facts, I’m objective. Again, I have conversations, discussions, and read these people’s essays all the time. Just being such a small school, everyone knows who the intellectual and hard working kids are and who are not. And also, I just don’t understand how it’s shallow to want the people who worked the hardest, are the most creative, and the most intellectual to get into a high caliber universities. I’m always very humble when the peers whom I respect and acknowledge as being better than me because they worked harder get into top universities, and I congratulate them.</p>
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<p>**Berkeley = Cal</p>
<p>not CAL**</p>
<p>@DynamicStyle If you stop judging people because you think you’re better than them, it will bring you a long way forward.</p>
<p>a long way, really?</p>
<p>@ Deuces: I believe everyone is inherently equal (or the difference in natural intelligence is negligible except for in the most special cases such as geniuses like Einstein). HOWEVER, I do believe that there are those who work harder and think more about the world and its problems than others. Furthermore, I believe in meritocracy. Therefore, I believe that those who work the hardest, think the most about how to resolve major problems in our world, and try to be the most creative deserve to be rewarded. An impartial analysis of my peers leads me to believe they were less qualified than many of the people at my school and in the nation (not necessarily me in particular).</p>
<p>Now obviously, the world doesn’t always reward people based on my criteria. However, while I don’t particularly care that these kids got in, I do feel a bit irritated.</p>
<p>I am always very humble in respecting and acknowledging people who impartially deserve their success. Like I’ve said again and again, I’ve also had friends and peers whom I respect get accepted, and I was very happy for them. There are just a few kids who from my perspective don’t particularly qualify.</p>
<p>I’d just like to add that I don’t think I’m “better” than these people; I just believe you should reap what you sow.</p>
<p>I’d also just like to add that those have criticized my assertions are largely hypocritical. </p>
<p>Those who have criticized me have made remarks about my character/personality because they claim that I can’t draw accurate conclusions about my peers’ academic profiles and approaches to life (even though I have 3+ classes with these peers, converse with them all the time, and talk to them outside of school).</p>
<p>However, these same people make vast presumptions about me and my character from 2 or 3 posts on an internet forum. Brilliant logic.</p>
<p>Rejected from Cal, accepted to UCLA! 
After touring UCLA, I fell in love with campus and the atmosphere feels perfect. I’m a SoCal dude for sure, haha :)</p>
<p>“Mathboy98 is the most rational and logical person in this thread. Everyone else is highly biased.”
- DynamicStyle @ <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-california-berkeley/890074-i-think-berkeley-pulled-off-ucsd-move-messed-up-decisions-4.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-california-berkeley/890074-i-think-berkeley-pulled-off-ucsd-move-messed-up-decisions-4.html</a></p>
<p>Really? EVERYONE else is HIGHLY biased?! Man, I am just so fortunate to bump into your posts in the few that I participate in huh? (And FYI, I actually defended that guy in that thread–tell me how my post was “highly biased”?)</p>
<p>Sure, call us hypocritical; there’s no avoiding it. However, doing so will not hide your previous backstabbing remarks about your “unintelligent peers.” I wonder if they will still talk to you “outside of school all the time” if they found out…</p>
<p>I planned on stopping this conversation with you, but you just would not let it go… Please, stop this now. UCLA is a top tier school and was one that I was ecstatic to gain admission to. There really is no need to be jealous of your peers that you apparently have helped, but are now obsessively talking crap about. Your tone in your post has slightly changed, but your character will not.</p>
<p>@ Secretaznmanxz</p>
<p>Fail</p>
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<li><p>I called my peers unintellectual, not unintelligent. There’s a huge difference, and I’ve defined what I deem intellectualism in my posts (if you actually read them). My peers whom I criticized acknowledge that they’re not particularly intellectual and that I analyze social issues and such more than they do; therefore, why would they stop talking to me?</p></li>
<li><p>I have repeatedly said over and over that I’m not jealous at all. I just simply believe in the best qualified and most hard working going to the best schools. The kids at specifically my school who were accepted are in no way comparable to some of the highly intellectual and brilliant UC Berk students and alums I’ve come in contact with.</p></li>
<li><p>I’m not obsessively talking crap about the subject, I’m simply refuting incorrect assertions.</p></li>
<li><p>Obviously my tone has changed a bit because my initial post was written right after UCB decisions came out and I was bit flustered and confused. Now that I’ve been able to analyze the situation better I can talk in a more rational, professional tone.</p></li>
<li><p>Again, you judge me based on like 3-4 posts (which I don’t even think you’ve read). I hope we become friends at UCLA in real life and then find out who we are on this forum hahaha. That’ll be pretty funny ^^" (and trust me you won’t be able to figure out who I am in real life ;D)</p></li>
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<p>p.s. Dude the Berkeley forum in that particular thread is EXTREMELY biased. Everyone’s like ZOMG BERKELEY BASH!!!111!!one!!! YOU’RE A LOSER!!! or UCBERK ADMISSIONS IS H4X FOR TEH LOSE!!! Mathboy98 was the only one who even remotely made sense. He basically said Berkeley is a great school, but it sometimes makes questionable decisions because of whatever factors. I totally agree.</p>
<p>I didn’t mean you specifically in that thread secret asian man =)</p>
<p>Hi DynamicStyle. Fail? Although I have not read your posts today, I did browse through them once in the past. If you actually went back to reread your earlier posts, you’ll probably find the culprit that initiated this conversation (so obviously, I’ve read…). However, you’ve addressed your earlier negative attitude just now, so no harm done.</p>
<p>I apologize for confusing “unintellectual” with “unintelligent.” Either way though, I highly doubt you would appreciate someone calling you an “unintellectual.” Obviously, you will say you will not be offended if the comment is true. Me attempting to argue about this with you will not lead me anywhere, so … I just won’t. I urge you to go talk to your peers about their unintellectual-ness though. They won’t get angry because it’s true!</p>
<p>One thing I will agree with you is that mathboy98 did make a compelling point. Some “great” applicants were rejected, and some “not so great” applicants were accepted. However, doesn’t this apply to all schools, UCLA included? Overall though, there is a general trend for Cal (like all schools), which your high school pool probably does not represent (IF what you’ve stated was unbiased and true).</p>
<p>I appreciate you correcting your mistake of incorporating me with “everyone” (I think). And thanks for the comment about my username 
Before I leave though, here is what I wrote about that guy:</p>
<p>"Ashwin. I’m sure all of us on here were rejected somewhere during this process, so believe me when I say we all know how you feel. It’s natural to feel angry, but it is not a reason to claim your superiority over everyone else.</p>
<p>It seems you’ve calmed down, that’s good. Get the appeal going and see where that takes you. I agree you should have gotten in with your scores though."</p>
<p>Quite a few people did irrationally bash that guy, but I personally feel that I, like mathboy98, also made a sensible comment… But I am obviously biased for myself. The reason why I copied my comment above is because I just can’t help but feel that it also somehow applies to you. … Can’t quite put my fingers on it though…</p>
<p>Congrats on the UCLA acceptance everyone!</p>
<p>Hi DynamicStyle. Fail? Although I have not read your posts today, I did browse through them once in the past. If you actually went back to reread your earlier posts, you’ll probably find the culprit that initiated this conversation (so obviously, I’ve read…). However, you’ve addressed your earlier negative attitude just now, so no harm done.</p>
<p>I apologize for confusing “unintellectual” with “unintelligent.” Either way though, I highly doubt you would appreciate someone calling you an “unintellectual.” Obviously, you will say you will not be offended if the comment is true. Me attempting to argue about this with you will not lead me anywhere, so … I just won’t. I urge you to go talk to your peers about their unintellectual-ness though. They won’t get angry because it’s true!</p>
<p>One thing I will agree with you is that mathboy98 did make a compelling point. Some “great” applicants were rejected, and some “not so great” applicants were accepted. However, doesn’t this apply to all schools, UCLA included? Overall though, there is a general trend for Cal (like all schools), which your high school pool probably does not represent (IF what you’ve stated was unbiased and true).</p>
<p>I appreciate you correcting your mistake of incorporating me with “everyone” (I think). And thanks for the comment about my username Before I leave though, here is what I wrote about that guy:</p>
<p>"Ashwin. I’m sure all of us on here were rejected somewhere during this process, so believe me when I say we all know how you feel. It’s natural to feel angry, but it is not a reason to claim your superiority over everyone else.</p>
<p>It seems you’ve calmed down, that’s good. Get the appeal going and see where that takes you. I agree you should have gotten in with your scores though."</p>
<p>Quite a few people did irrationally bash that guy, but I personally feel that I, like mathboy98, also made a sensible comment… But I am obviously biased for myself. The reason why I copied my comment above is because I just can’t help but feel that it also somehow applies to you. … Can’t quite put my fingers on it though…</p>
<p>Congrats on the UCLA acceptance everyone!</p>
<p>@ secretaznmanxz: Lol, like I said this isn’t about me feeling superior to others. I’m personally very happy with UCLA =D It’s just that the UCB decisions were quite strange. All the students and alums I’ve known from UCB are incredibly intellectual and brilliant, SOME of the kids (the specific minority I pointed out) from my school who were accepted are just not comparable to these people, but whatever. I’m not saying that UCB should’ve accepted me personally because I didn’t even want to go (I only applied to UCB in case UCLA turned out bad), but in order to accept these questionable kids from my school, UCB must’ve rejected other super hard working and smart kids from my school and other schools, which I don’t find quite fair under my criteria of qualifications.</p>
<p>Lol, but you’re totally right. The decisions have been made and that’s that. Let’s have a great time at UCLA whooo!!! =D I’m gonna try my best from now on to represent the Bruins well ^^b</p>
<p>I got accepted to both and, after I officially get rejected by HYP on the 1st, will be choosing UCLA.
Better scholarship (Regent’s at UCLA but not Cal), better weather, and further from home (I live about an hour from Berkeley) 
In some ways I wish I had been rejected from Berkeley so I wouldn’t have to turn down such a good school- but ultimately I care more about the whole picture than just prestige and I feel that’s what UCLA has to offer.</p>
<p>Debating between Cal and UCLA…again. Chose not to attend school last year. You’d think I’d have a better idea of what I wanted/what school to choose, but I really don’t. </p>
<p>As of right now, I think UCLA is the one I would prefer, but I keep going back and forth. I genuinely adore both schools and it isn’t about rankings or prestige for me. I just haven’t decided which school has a better ‘feel’ for me. The meter points to UCLA right now, but ehh…</p>
<p>Many people seem to be in this boat. We’re very fortunate (or horribly unlucky if we’re THAT indecisive) that we are able to make a decision between the two. To those that didn’t get in to either UCB or UCLA or whatever UC and got into another: you’ll have a great time wherever you as long as you try to make the best out of it. I know people that have gotten into Berkeley but wanted to go to UCLA and vice versa. Congrats either way!</p>