<p>Holy Cross would be a great choice. Holy Cross has one of the better pre-med programs in the country with very high medical school acceptance rate. Holy Cross has new $70 million science building, one of the very few LAC’s colleges to produce a Nobel PRIZE winner in medicine. Holy Cross has January 15 th application due date and a very nice campus 1 hour from Boston.</p>
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<p>Really, I wrote that? Please show me where and when?</p>
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<p>Perhaps, but the test scores will still weigh against her. Bu then the OP did not offer any such background, and I for one will not assume facts that are not presented. But if the OP was top 12% at Bronx Sci and Hopkins still rejected her…</p>
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<p>Yup, and I even suggested the OP throw an app to CALS. (But being in the bottom quartile of the ‘range’, which others have suggested, is where the hooked candidates are, just means that one needs other outstanding ‘stuff’ for the app to be successful. And none of that other stuff is presented either.) If the OP had the ECs to match, an app to Hum Ec would be even better (since they are less test-focused).</p>
<p>“You make it sound her academic profile has precluded her from admissions to a top school entirely.”</p>
<p>Academic profile in combination with lack of ECs and demographic factors = pretty darn unlikely. I think Cornell is a huge stretch. The OP should concentrate on finding real safeties rather than on entering lotteries at schools as nationally famous as JHU. I’m thinking UConn, SUNY Buffalo type safeties. Looking for matches in the Midwest and South, where Asians and New Yorkers may be viewed as adding diversity, is an excellent suggestion.</p>
<p>Given the rejection, as opposed to a deferral, I am also concerned about the possibility that there’s a problem in the essay/s or recommendations. There’s nothing to do about the latter, but still time to work on the former.</p>
<p>I posted earlier with some suggestions and since then there have been many other fine suggestions including the two schools my two daughters attended, Brandeis and the University of Rochester. Older d had higher stats and although our high school does not rank was in the top ten students in graduating class. She was accepted with merit money but the merit money at Brandeis has changed during the past year to a different profile. Your stats more similar to younger d who attended Rochester with some merit money, but was not in science and schools with strong sciences and Rochester and Brandeis are both very strong in science but also have strong humanities and social science departments… Both are schools though that want you to have demonstrated interest by campus visit, interviews and with both schools, really strong recommendations and outstanding essays are perhaps more important than straight stats. Younger d was waitlisted at Oberlin, accepted at BU but without any merit money. Older d also accepted at Rochester with merit money, waitlisted at Cornell. Your list has too many reaches-Penn, Brown and Tufts all reaches not that there is anything wrong with applying to reaches, but you need to focus on more likely matches and safeties and showing interest to those schools.</p>
<p>*Here are that I think you should apply with (who cares what people say, it’s worth a shot and you have a chance):</p>
<p>Brown, Emory, Tufts, Brandeis, BU, Amherst, Bowdoin, Williams, Middlebury, Wake Forest, and Cornell. You have a decent shot—college isn’t just a numbers game. *</p>
<p>Oh please… applying to colleges is time-consuming and costly (apps, scores sent, CSS sent). This student doesn’t need a list of unlikely schools at this point. The student doesn’t have a “decent shot” at Cornell, Brown, Williams, Tufts, Amherst, and Williams.</p>
<p>Villanova is a possibility, but I don’t know how good they are will aid. Do you know how much Villanova would expect your family to pay? Run their NPC. Also apply to Fordham…again, not sure of FA. </p>
<p>Look at Depauw. Good with aid. Nice LAC that is good with pre-med students.</p>
<p>Also look at Loyola-Maryland…promises to meet determined need.</p>
<p>I might consider Loyola. “Academic profile in combination with lack of ECs and demographic factors = pretty darn unlikely.” Maybe my SAT scores aren’t high, but I go to a highly competitive school, especially my grade. I do not go to Bronx Sci, but my school is nonetheless competitive. I do have ECs, I always try to get involved. I have various leadership positions and in fact, I even founded a club at my school that will go to a developing country to build a school.</p>
<p>Don’t be defensive. We are not admission officers. You asked for opinion. We give ours. I’d say this, be realistic. Do you have access to Naviance? That tool gives you a good picture of where you are relative to your peers at your school. </p>
<p>I’ll tell you this story. Last year a woman whose D was denied Duke ED. She placed all her hope on Cornell. That didn’t work out. It’s wise for you to look beyond the top 20 schools.</p>
<p>Case Western Reserve University should be a match.</p>
<p>a lot of people are being d.ouches to you. i won’t name names but i’m disappointed by how condescending and rude they’re being. you CAN go to a top school, you have an a average and broke 2000 on the SAT. i think you have a good list. think about what kind of a social enviornment you want but schools i think you have a good chance at that are very reputable are
rochester, georgia tech (or VA tech, RIT, etc if you want to go to a tech school), richmond (also wake forest, davidson which is more competitive but not out of your reach at all… these are if you like southern schools), boston college, northeastern, lehigh, lafayette, bucknell, colgate, holy cross (basically the entire patriot league haha), george washington, nyu.
i definitely think you should apply to some of your higher caliber schools, i can see you at emory. i think you have a chance of acceptance.</p>
<p>Hi. I was rejected from JHU ED last year, too, so I kind of see your situation. I suggest Georgia Institute of Technology - it is ranked among top few in engineering and science, but if you’d rather not go to an engineering-focused school, then:
Georgetown Univ.
University of Virginia (where I go now) - it is challenging and has very strong academics
Univ of North Carolina at Chapel Hill</p>
<p>University of Virginia is actually a good school. Do you think that Georgetown is too hard for me?</p>
<p>I attended Georgetown and the hardest thing about the school is getting in. Nevertheless, if you are science oriented, GU is probably (average resources and facilities) not the right school for you unless you want pre-med where they are very strong.</p>
<p>I do want pre-med, but I’m not sure if I’ll get in. It is very hard to get in, I realize that.</p>
<p>I think you should re-evaluate why you’re choosing the colleges you are. I understand the desire to attend a big name school, but it shouldn’t be your dream to attend any of them that will accept you. Honestly, it probably won’t do much for your happiness later-on. If a particular top school happens to be your dream, I can understand but it being a “dream” just to attend any top school seems superficial. You should try to find schools that you actually like for their own characteristics besides USNWR rankings. Many of the schools recommended for you that you may not have heard of are still VERY good schools (especially Oberlin). You don’t have much time so look well and look fast. </p>
<p>If you’re still going to base your decisions solely on rank (as I fear you will seeing you reactions to some of the schools suggested for you), I’d suggest taking a look at schools outside of the top 15. Vanderbilt seems like a low-mid reach, Emory a decent match/low-reach, Rochester as a match, and Case Western (non BS/MD - that is pretty out of your range, sorry) as a match/safety.</p>
<p>Please look at some of the LACs and nationally ranked universities with good medical school placement.</p>
<p>A lot of colleges look at CR+M only, and don’t include your stellar writing score.</p>
<p>Some realistic suggestions are:
Brandeis
Case Western
U. Rochester
any selective LAC (not ultra selective like Amhert, Williams, Middlebury)
Binghamton, Geneseo or SB for instate</p>
<p>exclude: Georgetown, Vanderbilt, Emory, all accelerated premed programs
I think Georgetown, Vanderbilt and Emory are all about the same as JHU in selectivity.</p>
<p>You should definitely consider McGill. McGill is famous for its excellent science programs (especially its life sciences). Since McGill has one of the finest medical schools in the world, a degree from McGill would definitely carry a lot of weight during the med school application process. It’s located in an amazing city, has relatively cheap tuition, and takes about 10 minutes to apply to. I’d say that with your stats, McGill would be a pretty good match school.</p>
<p>Among LAC’s, Holy Cross has one of the best pre-med programs with very high med school acceptance rate. HC is SAT optional, need-blind for admissions, and has a fantastic medical alumni network including Nobel Prize winner, one of the top Doctors at NIH, and several medical school presidents.</p>