Rejections: Class of 2007

College Majors Musical Theater Major
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<p>Bruce, </p>

<pre><code> I'm so sorry about Elon. It's so hard realizing that you were sooo close! I think that sharpening your skills and reauditioning is a very good idea. My D has been dancing for a long time, but last summer we arranged for her to work privately with one of the instructors at her dance school. She felt that this was really affective. The teacher was able to fine tune help her fine tune, and could point out things she would not have seen in a regular class setting. The price was surprisingly reasonable because the dance school has a greatly reduced schedule of classes in the summer, and my D and the teacher worked out the schedule week by week so it could be flexible. Keep us posted and good luck!
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<p>Ok, well i wanted ot post this because os much of my story is on this topic...i got a message from clay james at Montclair, telling me he as trying to call me all yesterday....to tell me that he was pleased to accept me into the class for Musical Theatre starting Fall 2007..i dont even know what to say....i thought it was over, i though iw as doing BA, i was set on it and fine with in...im in shck..when i got the e-mail i ran downstairs and into my mothers arsm crying, she thought something was wrong..and all i can say is ' I cant believe i got in'..so i wanted ot tell you guys..and thank you so much...and ask you opinion about this school and if i should go next year...thank you guys so much :)..thank you for all your help and all your support :)</p>

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<p>Yay Kayla! I didn't even know you had applied! Bravo! Life has ups and downs and I am so glad that you now have your "up"! Happy for you.</p>

<p>PS...honey, you finally have your turn to post on the ACCEPTANCE THREAD.
:D</p>

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<p>congrats Kayla, Dr. Johns loss. lol</p>

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<p>Congratulations. Any further discussion, though, needs to be on an appropriate thread. I don't mean to sound callous - I truly am delighted about this turn of events - but others need this to be a place where it's about what it's supposed to be about - rejections. Thanks and mazel tov.</p>

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<p>Agree with babar....Kayla....go after your congrats on the acceptance thread. You waited long enough. There are many here with all rejections and let's leave this thread for them. You now can leave this thread, lol....good for you.</p>

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<p>Bruce, I'd say 2 wait lists out of 3 auditions is pretty impressive. I wish you the best of luck, with wahtever you decide - Everything happens for a reason, maybe your dream school will pop up next year.</p>

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<p>bump for this year's applicants. This is Dr. John's post from last year's threads</p>

<p>NUMBERS, redux </p>

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<p>Just about a year ago, I wrote a piece about Numbers. (It's post #454 on the "Colleges for Musical Theater--Part 40" thread, if you want to see it in context and read responses.) I think it may be worth repeating here. I hope it provides some perspective on this issue of rejection.</p>

<p>NUMBERS</p>

<p>As we approach the week of the Unified Auditions, I've been musing about numbers. I've written about this before, but not in the detail I'm about to present. </p>

<p>It is true that the top schools take a very small percentage of applicants, in some cases less than 5%. That's especially true for women. Last year [in 2005], we auditioned 151 women for MT at Otterbein. We made initial offers to 4. That's 2.65%. One turned us down. We eventually accepted two from the waiting list. So that's 6 offers to 151 women, or 3.97%. Daunting. Scary, even.</p>

<p>But, as I've said before, the laws of physics dictate that even the most talented students can't enroll in two schools at the same time. Let's see what that means.</p>

<p>There are 30 schools for which collegeconfidential.com has created individual threads. Let's just deal with those, and not the remaining 92 on the Big List. From my reading, it appears that the average number of students accepted into those 30 MT programs is around 20. We're at the low end of the scale at 8; CAP 21 is at the high end with 60. That means that there are 30x20 or 600 spaces for MT majors at the 30 schools. 600 is a whole lot more than 8.</p>

<p>CCM, CMU and Tisch report that they audition between 700-1000 students. But that doesn't mean that they collectively see 3000 students. With cross-applications, it's probably more like 1500. My guess is that the 30 schools are seeing around 1800 students total for their 600 spaces. 600/1800 = 1/3. Not bad odds.</p>

<p>We have to modify this a bit for gender. Our statistics show that 67% of our MT applicants are women. Let's assume that's the pattern across the country. So of the 1800 students who are auditioning for MT at the 30 schools, my guess is that 2/3, or 1200, are women. They're auditioning for half the slots, or 300. 300/1200 = ?. That's 25%. Not quite as good as 33%, but much better than 3%.</p>

<p>If my analysis is anywhere close to being right, women have something close to a one-in-four chance of being admitted, eventually, to one of 30 schools. I say "eventually" because the top 10% of students are going to receive the first-round offers. But they cannot choose more than one school. So eventually 300 of the 1200 women will be placed in one of the 30 schools.</p>

<p>If you look at the Big List, and make similar assumptions about the entire group of 122 schools, they have 122x20 = 2440 spaces for MT students. I think that means that there are spaces for everyone who really wants to do Musical Theatre. I find that a hopeful thought as I approach the audition season. I hope you will too.</p>

<p>My very best wishes to everyone. See you soon</p>