Religion and college

<p>I know some liberal/moderate protestants (Lutheran and Episcopalian, mostly) but the few Catholics I know are very conservative. There aren't alot of Catholics where I live though, so maybe that's why. Most of my good friends are liberal, but not many of them are Christian (a couple are Jewish, but most are atheist/agnostic) so I'm not a great judge, I guess. I live in a reeeeeally conservative state, and the great majority of people here are the crazy Southern Baptist type who like to threaten you with condemnation and yell at you about how gays and people who "kill babies" are going to hell. Fortunately, my college town, although not exactly a bastion of free-thinking, is waaaaay more liberal than the state it's in.</p>

<p>I am a Arab American/Muslim Republican, probably a minority now.</p>

<p>wow I apologize on behave of the distortion of my religion, we are not all like that I assure you</p>

<p>Oh I know that not all Christians are crazy, just Southern Baptists lol. Like I said, I know some cool moderate/liberal Lutherans and Episcopalians. The Catholics here are seriously intense conservatives though, they're all extreme pro-lifers and have been all about the McCain lately. MOST of them aren't really pushy about religion/politics though (but one girl is like insane, we just have to avoid any and all political conversation with her).
Personally, I feel like everyone has the right to believe whatever they want to. I'm a democrat, and I think one of our party's ideals is that, I may not agree with you but I'll fight to the death for your right to say it. However, when people's beliefs start encroaching on MY rights, or anyone else's personal rights, THAT is when I have a problem with it. Like, I'm a really big supporter of gay rights (did Day of Silence last friday and got a few snide comments about it). Now, if you want to believe it's "wrong" then go right ahead. No one's forcing you to be gay. But when you start telling people THEY can't get married because of YOUR religion, that's too far.</p>

<p>have you ever seen a gay rights parade? those have to end</p>

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That is one of the worst strings of logic I have ever heard, if your using it as evidence to become liberal.</p>

<p>Third Party candidate '12!

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<p>liberalism/conservatism != partisanship...</p>

<p>I wasn't attacking his political views, but rather his logic in telling people why liberalism is better than all else - "Well. if the smart kids are doing it, I guess that makes it all right..."</p>

<p>Razor, tell me, please, what high school you went to? Do they REALLY teach you there, or have you just "figured out for yourself" that an entire STATE is filled with those evil conservative Christians? Have you taken a look at the demographics of the state of Michigan? Have you heard of labor unions? Detroit? Flint? Saginaw? </p>

<p>FWIW, Long Island has historically been known as a conservative bastion.</p>

<p>I understand that, but like I said, its ridiculous. Suddam Hussein(1) was no doubt a smart man, but that doesnt make his political views "right". Same goes here. Would you start murdering people if the smart kids were doing it? No. Either you are too lazy to think for yourself or too dumb to realize your mistake.</p>

<p>(1) EDIT: ;)</p>

<p>lol...Ever heard of Godwin's law?</p>

<p>"Godwin's Law states that as an online argument grows longer and more heated, it becomes increasingly likely that somebody will bring up Adolf Hitler or the Nazis. When such an event occurs, the person guilty of invoking Godwin's Law has effectively forfieted the argument."</p>

<p>Whereever you go , you should be okay especially if it's a public flagship like UMich. I would be more concerned if someone said they were a conservative attending Vassar or Wesleyan (Although I'm sure there are at least a few conservatives), since those two schools have a small population and are predominantly liberal. But I wouldn't worry about diversity in a state flagship. There will be people of all different political stances at UMich.</p>

<p>I think its funny alice would make a comment that pollitical and social views are correlated with smart people. The smartest people I know are conservative, and you won't see my friends making statements based on facebook.</p>

<p>Whoa, chill out fencer, I'm not hating on Michigan - I obviously like it enough to want to spend the next four years of my life there! I'm not saying the entire state is filled with conservatives, or whatever you just called them (I believe "evil" and "Christians" were thrown around carelessly). I'm not saying anyone is evil. And yes I've heard of labor unions - I'm about to take the AP in Government and Politics! All I was wondering was if anyone lives around WMU or knows many people who go there and their general viewpoints. I just want to see how the majority feels from someone's first-hand experience. Having lived on LI my whole life, it's really not a highly conservative place anymore. I've been many places for many different reasons.</p>

<p>There are many posters on this thread who have assured me over a few things and have really, really helped me on this. I don't really need someone to act like a know-it-all and be nasty to me. Everyone else on here is kind, you should do the same. What goes around comes around, regardless of your political party.</p>

<p>That was, I believe, the most profound collection of thoughts I have read or heard all day.</p>