Report to Urge Sweeping Change for SUNY System

<p>Thank you. Our route all depends on the March SAT results...right now kid is only in range SAT-wise for Plattsburgh, Potsdam and Buffalo State (and the technical colleges). I guess the beauty of the SUNY system is that pretty much all state residents can go to a residential college for decent rates!</p>

<p>I am sorry to keep sounding like a shill, but NY does have things to offer. Sawdust I cried when I read what could have been in Buffalo in your post. So little forethought.</p>

<p>What Stony Brook has to offer is NYC, LI Sound and Brookhaven National Labs, not too shabby. And these attract professors. The music department is excellent because of NY's proximity.</p>

<p>What Stony Brook lacks is a college town feeling to the surrounding areas because they are wealthy suburbs. Not sure how to fix that; perhaps open a department in Port Jefferson and run shuttles. PJ has a much funkier feel than Stony Brook. Sound Beach and Rocky Point are off-campus living communities for students as in somewhat reasonable for group housing.</p>

<p>Money would do it folks. It really would.</p>

<p>Mythmom--I too think Stony Brook has so much to offer!! The problem is that alot of LI/NYC kids want to go further from home than SB. I am seeing a bit of a change in my district though. SB is getting a bit more applicants from my Nassau district.<br>
I have often thought Stony Brook would be the perfect place for our best and brighest upstate kids who need a break from the upstate winters and want to be close to NYC. Or even OOS kids who would love to be a train ride away from NYC. I think SB should definitely market itself to the upstate districts more aggressively and to OOS kids too.
a school near the Hamptons and NYC. very nice combo</p>

<p>BUT- my concern is the reality that there is a true divide between upstate and downstate cultures. And upstate kids may not be encouraged to go to Stony Brook.<br>
That is a real shame- because I think Stony Brook has the potential for being a true flagship school that ALL New Yorkers can be proud of-</p>

<p>Muffy- we also checked out Delhi (which is real close to Oneonta and the Roscoe Diner) for d # 2- We were in the same situation re: low SAT's and we wanted an absolute SUNY safety. Delhi's campus was pretty nice too. Surprisingly a majority of students came from the NY metro area. I mentioned it to you before- my d was much more successful with the ACT- so keep all your options open. Good luck.</p>

<p>I've lived OOS most of my life and thought Stony Brook WAS the flagship! And OOS people keep asking if my junior will be applying to Stony Brook because that's all they've heard of.</p>

<p>Very Interesting Muffy. Maybe Stony Brook should market itself more aggressively to OOS kids. The tuition is still in the range of $12,000 for OOS kids. Even with an increase, it would stay reasonable in comparison to other states.
with an increase in popularity, maybe more NY kids and families will finally get the message that SB is a great school with unlimited potential!!</p>

<p>OTOH--Maybe they need to worry about keeping what they got. </p>

<p>"The University of Michigan’s medical school has pulled off a major raid of research talent at the State University of New York’s medical center in Syracuse. The Detroit Free Press reported that a research team of more than 25 scientists and physicians, experts in cardiac arrhythmia, will be moving as a team from SUNY to Michigan. "</p>

<p>I guess that is exactly why they do need a major infusion of money into the SUNY system which also includes the Upstate and Downstate (Brooklyn) Medical Centers as well as the medical centers at Stony Brook and U of Buffalo.<br>
They want to increase funding by 40 million to the medical centers- based on info on the Suny website. Just re-read the report- that 40 million was just the state share- and then over a billion dollars for capital improvements and increase of residence halls for Suny medical centers.</p>

<p>We've been to the Roscoe diner too! When S went to sleep away camp up in that region.</p>

<p>Hey, there's a fly-fishing museum up near Roscoe, too. Best fly-fishing for trout in the country. I just said that although I know nothing about fish, except how to cook them. </p>

<p>Back to topic...</p>

<p>I am a northwest transplant from Chicago and well aware of upstate/downstate politics in higher ed. Downstate has the UI flagship school but Chicago has the Medical complex. UI-Chicago wisely combined with UI- Medical Center in the mid 1980’s and got an infusion of money from the city to upgrade the UI-C campus/facilities. Twenty-five years ago UI-C was in the heart of a west-side ghetto and just plain ugly. On my last trip home I was amazed at the transformation. I think most of the money came from the city not from the state. Buffalo may need to do the same if they want their branch of SUNY to be the premier state U.</p>