<p>I know that science research can be counted as an EC, but I've only done it during last summer as part of a program (~200 hours), and I plan to continue it this summer (~300 hours), but for pay. When I apply, my intended major is probably going to be something in the hard sciences--not engineering--or history of science/medicine.</p>
<p>As far as my competition goes for the application process goes, how much research (namely, # of years, weeks/year, hours/week) will other intended science majors have done? Is publishing a huge boost? Also, if I'm also planning to send an art portfolio with an art rec, would sending a research abstract and mentor rec be way too excessive? The art will undoubtedly add something different to my app--the research, I'm not so sure.</p>
<p>Research is what got me accepted, no doubt. I wasn’t published but will be within the next month. I didn’t send in my research report but did send in the abstracts/mentor recs. They love research and engineering.</p>
<p>arch, i’m glad ur research helped, but for others i wouldn’t count on it. an intel finalist from my school was only waitlisted, and he had lots of other leadership/ec stuff.</p>
<p>Yea, research def. helps. But since you already have an art portfolio…idk, if you think you spent a lot of time on ur research too, then go for it.
I’m a 2014’er too, and Ill prob submit a math research abstract.
but the thing for me is, I don’t have any humanities stuff…like music/arts…would it help significantly if I did have music/arts supplements?</p>
<p>I am almost 100% sure that research is a MAJOR boost for Yale. I sent in my research paper and I think it helped alot. FYI full reports are better than just abstracts especially if you independently research. </p>
<p>Also another thing is to frame your ECs, listing research as an EC is not as powerful as listing it as an EC AND writing an essay about your experience and you passion for science and research. One of my essays was about science fair and my unique experience with research.</p>
<p>Dbate–I know four years or more of research probably looks better on apps, but I’ll probably only have 2, even possibly three years of working with professors in labs at universities (10th, 11th, and maybe 12th if I research during the school year). Does this put me at a disadvantage? Personally, I don’t really know any 9th graders running around in labs, lol.</p>
<p>Also if I go into science I’d probably do something with cosmetic surgery, which kind of has to do with all the portraiture I do in my art. Would relating the two (which I’ve sort of subconsciously done in my head already) be particularly helpful, to sort of tie together two “opposite” disciplines?</p>
<p>Lastly (sorry I’m bombarding you with questions) do you suggest sending in research abstracts/papers for all of the research I’ve done, or just what I feel is my one strongest paper?</p>
<p>I had 2 years of research and most people I know that had any had 1. There’s absolutely no disadvantage to this. Being published/competing in intel, and, most importantly, building your research around a central career goal are key.</p>
<p>I don’t know about the art. I’d try to center your application around one major thing. If your art is really phenomenal, send it. Don’t send it in just to thicken your application file.</p>
<p>I don’t know. If all the papers are good, I would send them in. Yale has their admissions faculty evaluate them, so it might be a good idea. If only a couple are really strong, send those in. I only sent in 2 abstracts.</p>
<p>I disagree actually. You just need to be able to show that you have the ability and commitment to get involved. Besides, no professor would give you a menial labor task, even if you think you have no skills. They will always make you think you are working on a great project ;)</p>
<p>No three is in lab research is great. I only had three years of research but mine was independent and not lab affliated. Something else that really looks good to supplement your application is to enter science fairs and accumulate awards. </p>
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<p>This sounds fantastic and a well written essay conveying this sounds like it would be amazing. PASSION really is a key word to think about when writing your essays. Your writing should function to show an image of you that is passionate about something so have them be connected and related. </p>
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<p>You should only send in the most recent and best paper. I only sent in the paper for my lastest project.</p>
<p>Research helps. I did years of it. Sent it all in to adcom. Sent recs.
Got in.
I will advise you go for it. Absolutely positively.
Make sure you know what you are doing and writing. Those who were waitlisted might have written for the adcom and forgot what they were doing. </p>
<p>Are competitions/science fairs really necessary? Intel results (and lots of other well known contests for that matter) do not come out in time for SCEA '09, and that’s assuming I’d actually be a semifinalist (which probably won’t happen). However I did gain admission to a selective research program (not widely known, but semi-prestigious in my region) the year before for the summer which got me started with the whole research thing. Would a stellar research mentor rec sort of validate my passion/skill in the research field, as opposed to a contest win?</p>
<p>also, for someone who’s sort of planning to go into sociology/psychology-related sciences (assuming I don’t go pre-med) that wants to combine that with something liberal-artsy and have that major still remain under the “science” category, what would an appropriate major be? sociology? psychology?</p>
<p>Sorry, I don’t know about any Intel-like contests before SCEA. The SCEA date is one of the reasons I thought about applying RD instead, so competition results can come out.</p>
<p>I’m wondering, I’m doing a research internship this summer, and it should be ok/good, but my main ECs are in debate/forensics (State/Nats/Lots of NFL pts/rec from coach). Would I have to send in a rec from my professor or write my essay about research to show that it isn’t just a padding EC?</p>