Research Science Institute ( RSI ) 2008

<p>Examples in which privatecitizen shows signs of being in the RSI adcom
privatecitizen's posts</p>

<p>“You should ask university professors for recommendations if they know you well enough and can comment on your academic potential. If you have done some research work under a mentor, a letter from the mentor is also very helpful.”</p>

<p>“I have it on good authority (three people involved with selecting students for two different competitive programs) that a call from a parent raises a flag of doubt. "If the student really wants to attend, why isn't he/she asking how to submit test scores or whether the recommendation has arrived?" and "Will this parent who's calling now be calling all the time during the program?" are just two of the concerns I've heard.”</p>

<p>“Question 7 and the "check box" box have been on the application for over a **decade <a href="although%20they%20seem%20to%20have%20updated%20the%20%22skills%22%20of%20interest%20this%20year">/B</a>, so who knows what the original intention was.</p>

<p>Most applicants write "see application sheet" for #7 and treat them as the same thing. I don't think you need to add much unless you want to explain how you acquired the skills and applied them in the past. I've heard that the skills self-assessment has little influence over selection. </p>

<p>The primary purpose of question 7 / check box is to ensure a good match between you and your lab. Some labs have the time and resources to coach you in, say, MATLAB, while others don't. In some labs, you'll write a ton of Perl scripts, and in others you won't. Try to be accurate (or even a little conservative) so that you don't have to cram skills before you can start your project.”</p>

<p>How would a student know that the question has been there for a decade?</p>

<p>“It's not a bad idea. The reason that any of these tests matter is that there's no national curriculum in the US, so no one outside your school knows what "Honors Calculus II" really covers. **My friend who used to read apps **valued AP courses because the subject matter is standardized. Your scores on the SAT II's are probably helpful for the same reason.”</p>

<p>“Since you're DODEA, send the scores to your selection authority. They'll forward them to CEE with your folder if they nominate you. Others should probably mail copies of their score reports using old-fashioned snail mail: CEE seems to be a very paper-bound operation.”</p>

<p>“You could do both, of course, but you should really contact CEE to see what their preferred medium is. They have a much smaller staff than you'd think, so it's to your advantage to make things as easy on them as you can.
(I guess that's generally true when you want something from someone... )”</p>

<p>“It won't make any difference whether you paid the fee. CEE opens your application packet, **puts your data into their computer, cashes your check, and makes a folder with all your academic documents and essays. These folders go to the members of the selection committee (who are university staff, researchers, etc -- they're not CEE staff), and the folders are all they see. **The committee has no idea whether you sent in a check.
By the way, RSI is really expensive to run, and the money for it comes from mainly from donations. Some summer programs charge several thousand dollars for a residential experience, but RSI is free for participants. CEE charges an application fee so that they don't have to use as much donated money for admin/clerical costs.”</p>

<p>^scary!!</p>

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...This wait is killing me it's like waiting for AP test scores...

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um, AP test scores for me are like BLAH. lol. i didn't know my score and didn't check them until the year afterwards when i met my teacher and she was like "congratulations on getting a 5!"</p>

<p>I have a student who was an alternate for RSI last year. Turns out it was the best thing that could have happened in terms of the research project. This young person was working with a prof in March (and would have continued doing so even if this student had attended RSI), writing a paper in August and continued doing research/winning awards the rest of the year. If you have research opportunities available locally, don't count them out if you don't make it to RSI. It all works out for a reason -- so don't despair! </p>

<p>Thirty-six of the 40 Intel finlists this year were <em>not</em> RSI alums. That means there is plenty of opportunity out there for folks who are willing to work at their dreams.</p>

<p>I remember the day AP scores came out last year. We were at SSP and everyone started calling in for their scores.. I didn't have a credit card, so ended up paying my friend to call in for me. :D</p>

<p>Yeah AP scores aren't as exciting as the awaited/dreaded letter from RSI, only because you know generally how well you did already. I predicted my scores before getting them, and I was only slightly unsure about one. </p>

<p>The logic behind incriminating (??...) privatecitizen as an admin is compelling, but I don't see how it couldn't just be someone who has a friend in the process or who used to work in the office. I wouldn't be too worried, because you can't edit your posts on CC anyways (uhoh.. so now RSI will know how badly we want to go??) and there isn't much to change anyways.</p>

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I didn't have a credit card, so ended up paying my friend to call in for me.

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Lol, i didn't even bother with paying them anything...they already took about 100$ from me to take the stupid test in the first place :P</p>

<p>plus nobody gets lower than 4s anyways at my school...unless you're really at the bottom of the class with Fs...then it might be 50/50</p>

<p>haha that's because your school is... like amazing... :P
I talked to an eighth grader I was teaching, on saturday from one of the middle schools... we talked about mathcounts, AMCs, AIME, USAMO.. it was actually quite amusing... You people know what you're doing. Our school is like "Oh... I got invited to take the math thing... should I do it? maybe... " :)</p>

<p>lol...i probably know him/her then...whats his/her name?</p>

<p>errr not sure, I'll get back to you next week :P</p>

<p>why are u tutoring some kid from my town?
ps: i SOO started/continued the usamo obsession. despite the fact that i probably...most likely...definitely :) did not make it this year.</p>

<p>two words: Chinese school.
:)</p>

<p>hahaha...8th graders talking about USAMO...er, would that be the product of his parents, because he definitely did not get that from us high schoolers, as we don't interact with middleschoolers..</p>

<p>Wow... I didn't know about AMC/AIME/USAMO, physics, chemistry, or biology olympiads until this year. I blame it on being white and having parents that are completely removed from all science haha. A lot of Asian people I knew used to act all superior to me because their parents had gotten them internships and they'd all won piano/debate awards. Then I owned them all on the SAT/ACT and they stopped bragging to me :)</p>

<p>Haha well... my parents don't know much either. Last year after I got into a summer program, I spent two weeks begging them to let me go. They ended up having to call up hq and try to figure out if the program was legit before letting me go... They have no clue about any of the olympiads (my school does only math anyway... it used to do usabo, but we started sucking and the school stopped offering it) and although they are connected to science, any research I've done have not been helped by connections... Oh and my parents are trying to wean me away from piano... </p>

<p>unasian asian parents.</p>

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Oh and my parents are trying to wean me away from piano...

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my parents have been blackmailing me to quit for years :D</p>

<p>and btw, the chem olympiad isn't done thru ur school, so you don't need their permission to do that!!!!</p>

<p>So, it kind of annoys me when people forget about the computing (informatics) olympiads. And when they confuse USACO with the chemistry olympiad. The USACO also doesn't require anything from your school at all.</p>

<p>^neither does Chem, in case you thought that I confused chem with computing =)</p>

<p>Well I didn't know about either :'(</p>

<p>even if i knew about computing...uh, i know about as much computing as my dog.</p>

<p>that's why most people forget about it, because it's not within their realm of knowledge...like people would know about the chem olympiad because, no matter how bad they are at chem, they probably know more about chem than..computing..</p>

<p>I know more about computing than chemistry.</p>

<p>mr. bowman attended princeton in the 1980s (graduated RSI 1984, probably enrolled 1986): <a href="http://www.cee.org/news/center_line/CenterLine_Summer06.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.cee.org/news/center_line/CenterLine_Summer06.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>privatecitizen also attended princeton:
"Whether the swim test is a current requirement or not, I can't say. It was required when I started at Princeton (mid-1980s), and I found it anything but trivial."</p>

<p>i feel like a detective (detectives are like scientists in a way).</p>

<p>all kidding aside, for all those who submitted an unofficial transcript, here's some food for thought. here's what privatecitizen says:</p>

<p>"Students whose schools have a "direct-send" policy for official transcripts should include an unofficial transcript with their application and follow it up with an official copy sent from the school directly to CEE. The unofficial copy allows CEE to proceed with processing your application, but they do want an official copy for final selection."</p>

<p>im just throwing stuff around, but now that selection is almost over (or over) and you HAVENT RECEIVED A CALL FROM CEE TO SUBMIT AN OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT, that might mean you're rejected. if you have, then good news for you. </p>

<p>then again, they can send you an acceptance letter and ask you to submit an official transcript so they know you weren't lying.</p>

<p>my two cents =D</p>