Review and FAQ from Wake Forest 2020 Grad

Does Wake Forest football redshirt many–or any–players ?

If yes, can a red shirted player receive 5 years of grant-in-aid tuition scholarship instead of the typical 4 year award ?

^ Good questions. No idea. I’m sure they red shirt some kids. I know this yr’s projected starting QB red shirted last yr (played in just below the max games to keep eligibility).

@Publisher there are a lot of athletes who go on to get graduate degrees when they redshirt. I’m sure the school takes care of them as needed through grant aid.

Wake Forest doesn’t have the endowment per student of many of their peers, so they rely on full pay students to a greater extent than others. That is also reflected in the NYT Upshot article.

It’s financial trajectory is similar to and several years behind Vanderbilt, which like Wake has moved from a regional university to national prominence. My Vanderbilt grad friends who have kids at Wake tell me that reminds them of VU when they were in school.

Wake has differentiated itself as a “Collegiate University”, which is an apt description in my view. The blend of intensive academics, small class size and Power Five sports gives it a flavor and feel all its own. It’s not perfect, but for the right student is pretty special.

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On Wake (and similar peers economic quartile of students’ performance), I wonder if schools like Richmond and Wake suffer from athletic scholarships. Given that Wake only gives a full merit ride to some 40 students per class (and they get it for the requisite 36 ACT not financial need) … having as many as 100 scholarship athletes from the 25th quartile (parents making some $22,000/yr.) would greatly reduce the results. Most major athletic universities in the national top 30…like a Michigan or Vanderbilt…have a much larger student base to absorb scholarship athletes who are less likely to run a company after graduating. This would also explain why non-athletic oriented peers … like Emory …do better on the last quartile issue.

[later edit] Sorry after answering I see others made similar point. That said, do you see who the top performers were for moving kids from the lower 5th to the top 5th … #1 St. Louis School of Pharmacy, #3 Albany School of Pharmacy, #4 California Maritime Academy. Yes, poor kids do well becoming pharmacists or tug boat captains, but the top 5% academically are usually either more inquisitive or more ambitious on their future. Oberlin (known as Woke Forest) gives no athletic scholarships and does no better than Wake on getting the bottom 20% into the top 20% of income earners…and I think it has a lot to do with the kids themselves … why should satisfied philosopher kings seek to get into the top 20% of incomes in the country? Is this the mission of the country’s top liberal arts schools?