<p>Hi SMIA! I have seen that site before, but now I can plug in the acceptances. Thanks for the heads up!</p>
<p>Loyola Marymount graduates 78 percent of its black women, but only 46 percent of it’s black men in 4 years. Santa Clara apparently doesn’t have enough black males graduating to have a data point.</p>
<p>Is there a way to find percent of black males at schools?</p>
<p>Thank you so much. Adding it to my Junior seminar syllabus!!</p>
<p>SMIA - - thanks for the site. As for the 4yr graduation rates, I wonder whether the low/lower numbers are the result of (1) hard economic times and (2) LD students taking longer to graduate. Regarding the latter, “plan on 5 years” is what parents often advise on the LD board, and a friend’s LD son entered UMich with no expectation of graduating in 4yrs, even taking a couple of courses every summer.</p>
<p>@Sybbie - you run seminars for Juniors?! Lucky folks! 
One caveat: the site’s numbers are based on 2008 data. Arguably things may have changed for the better (or worse) at some schools since that time.
@lacrosse & shrinkrap - methinks it’s time for an update on how the kiddies are doing this year and where everyone’s leaning. Anyone make a decision yet?
@nyc - I’ve heard talk that graduation times are lengthening in response to rising college costs & working student who must pay. I also wonder, however, whether an increasing number of double majors, dual degrees, internships & study abroad choices in an attempt to improve competitive edge mightn’t be contibutors?</p>
<p>shrinkrap, that same site (collegeresults) shows the student body breakdown by male/female and several ethnicities, so one can see the total % of black males in a school’s student body. You can also view retention rates. At yet another site (college measures dot org) you can see student loan-to-earnings, showing the average starting salary a graduate of that school can expect as compared to the average debt load. I SO love the internet!</p>
<p>Just wish there weren’t such a delay between the stats and their publication!</p>
<p>“shows the student body breakdown by male/female and several ethnicities, so one can see the total % of black males in a school’s student body.”</p>
<p>Shoot!I can’t figure it out! I can see percent male, and percent black, but not black males. Is it under college profile or compare colleges? Probably under college search!</p>
<p>Actually THIS is the site I was thinking of. It was a link on College results.
<a href=“http://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/[/url]”>http://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/</a></p>
<p>okay, so I went back on to ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ and took a look. Turns out that the only thing I can isolate by race AND gender are the 4,5 & 6yr grad rates. To do this, I have to “compare schools” by adding 3 (for purposes of this test, I chose UDayton, Loyola Marymount & Fordham), you get a page w/several tabs at top. One of those tabs is graduation rate by race & gender. Another is progression & retention. Interesting stuff. Haven’t seen College navigator. Will check that out after 2nite’s movie marathon w/the youngest (Wall Street, Social Network, Kids Are Alright - anyone seen any of these?).</p>
<p>Wall Street, Money Never Sleeps was sort of ho-hum, in my opinion. Shia LeBouf is annoying as a actor. Can’t figure out the attraction. The real theme of the movie is whether or not Gordon is a hero or a villain.</p>
<p>Saw The “Kids are All Right” (and yes, in the title it “all right” not “alright”), my family enjoyed it; thought the characters were very realistic.</p>
<p>SMIA,</p>
<p>One of my goals for this year is to have my students look at data in helping them to make an informed decision. They are looking at information common data sets, information from the JBHE, and I have already began looking at the data from collegeresults and strategicmeasures and will incorporate them in to the syllabus (yes, I give tests on the information). </p>
<p>I gave them a series of articles to read for homework from the Educational Trust:</p>
<p>Big Gaps Small Gaps in Serving African American Students</p>
<p>Big Gaps Small Gaps in Serving Hispanic Students </p>
<p>[Big</a> Gaps Small Gaps in Serving African American Students | Education Trust](<a href=“http://www.edtrust.org/dc/publication/big-gaps-small-gaps-in-serving-african-american-students]Big”>http://www.edtrust.org/dc/publication/big-gaps-small-gaps-in-serving-african-american-students)</p>
<p>I also make them do the math to see how it fleshes out to the actual number of students on a particular campus and not simply look at percentages.</p>
<p>“Turns out that the only thing I can isolate by race AND gender are the 4,5 & 6yr grad rates.”</p>
<p>I saw that! That’s how I noticed black males where “N/A” in terms of graduation at a few schools I was comparing. So I was thinking if they start out with 100 boys and 100 girls, and not enough boys to count graduated, that is scary. But what if they start out with 150 girls, and 50 boys,… and the boys are N/A?</p>
<p>“methinks it’s time for an update on how the kiddies are doing this year and where everyone’s leaning. Anyone make a decision yet?”</p>
<p>In terms of updates, daughter finished her semester “abroad” in NYC, and returned to Durham. “Tented” in 20 degrees and snow, for UNC vs Duke tickets for a few nights, then gave up her “spot” and returned to the dorm I am paying through the nose for. She is a junior. </p>
<p>Son had a pretty good first semester with his first two AP classes. Academically he has finally hit his stride. I’m glad it’s never too late, but it makes the search a little tricky. </p>
<p>So far admissions are Whitworth, Willamette, Gonzaga, and University of the Pacific, with a little merit money. Also admitted to Sonoma state and Chico State. Still waiting on the “reaches” before “leaning” too much in one direction. Those PNW schools sport about 1 percent black students. Most of the California publics are 2 or 3 percent.</p>
<p>Yes, the black population at Willamette is small, but I absolutely would nevertheless enthusiastically encourage a student to matriculate there. A very fine, strong college that produces successful alumni.</p>
<p>^Good to know. And the Willamette offer was more than a little. Biggest drawback is they only offer 3+2 engineering, and they said 4+2 was more likely. Son was okay with that at first, and liked the division three varsity soccer coach and team, then realized it would mean 6 more years of school.</p>
<p>Ha! And I totally expected to hear reviews on only “The Social Network!” I should have KNOWN to expect more from this group. <em>grin</em> Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa! Enjoyed all 3 movies, in order: Social Network, Wall Street, Kids are ''ALL RIGHT" (thnx nyc!). I’ve always been an Annette Bening fan, but should have known that movie was rated “R” for a reason <chagrin>. L’il uncomfy w/the 17yr old at parts. </chagrin></p>
<p>I thought the college drop-off scene was . . . well . . . a learning experience (insert helicopter motor <em>here</em>). Can’t imagine dropping off & driving away no matter how hard D protested. I’m MAKING the damned bed! 
(j/k)</p>
<p>On a diff note: I’m really gonna miss all you guys next year when I don’t have high schooler any more. Wish there were a forum like this (for parents) for grad/law school prospectives. Does anyone here have a kid currently IN law school/international relations or thinking about it? </p>
<p>D1 just took the LSAT (I may have posted this here a few weeks back, 'cause someone sent me a link to a great student site), but I’ve been reading absolute horror stories about the legal job market, and I’m just not so sure law school’s a wise choice anymore. What say you?</p>
<p>^I think there’s a lot she an do with a law degree, even if it isn’t in a law firm. There are companies, corporations, social services, agencies, etc. where a law degree could be a big help.</p>
<p>As for the update, D1 is still in waiting mode… Accepted so far to UC Davis and MIT, but still waiting on 12 more decisions. When D2 comes along in 4 years, I’ll make sure that she does not apply to so many colleges. Managing the emails, finaid applications, interviews, scholarship apps, etc. has been a real pain.</p>
<p>SMIA, the market is bad for all recent grads (except STEM) and I can’t believe your D would have more/better prospects with a masters in IR than a JD. The real issue for law grads is the expense, since law students usually accrue more debt than other grad students (again, except for med school). OTOH: a JD is very vesatile degree; even in this market, most law grads from T6-T14 schools find jobs; and the top schools (T6-T14) have loan forgiveness for those taking public interest jobs (public defender, legal services, etc.) - -some schools, like NYU, even offer “launch grants,” funding grads to work in public interenst or non-profit offices.</p>
<p>Check out the parent’s thread re: the recent article asking whether law school is “worth it.” There’s a related thread on public interest jobs in the law school forum.</p>
<p>“Wish there were a forum like this (for parents) for grad/law school prospectives.”</p>
<p>Many of us on the parents’ board are knowledgeable about this and happy to discuss. Ask away!</p>